Every dog owner's nightmare scenario.

And maybe some here have actually experienced it.

Let's say you are walking your dog, in an isolated area.

Suddenly, it is confronted by another dog, something large and capable, an Akita or GSD.

There is no other owner in sight, and this dog is clearly spoling for a fight.

How do you best handle that?

Clearly, it is less of an issue if you are not alone, as two of you can each take dogs collar, twist, and they will have to open their mouth, to get some air.

But if it is just you and your dog, and the other dog has no owner in sight... Not good.

Might be an idea to think of how best you would handle that, lest you ever need to?

I have had dogs come up that were being just a bit too much of a pest, and have found that if I raise my voice to them, in a firm manner, they have often run off.

However, a really wound up dog may not, and then you would have a real thing on your hands.

I suppose if your dog was attacked, there could be an arguement for letting go the lead (if your dog is on one), to at least give it a better chance of defence?

Not sure, to be honest.

I would keep my boy under control. avoid eye contact with the other dog, turn sideways and start slowly backing away, with no sudden movements, keeping mine, and Charlie's if possible, body language non-threatening.

shontelle wrote:I would keep my boy under control. avoid eye contact with the other dog, turn sideways and start slowly backing away, with no sudden movements, keeping mine, and Charlie's if possible, body language non-threatening.

Yeah, but I was meaning if it has gone beyond that, and the other dog has just rushed and attacked.

Although what you have written is good and sensible.

Its happened to me 2 times the first time my front door wasnt shut properly (learned a lesson ill never forget that day) and the wind blew it open duke 7 months ran out just as a woman was walking passed with 2 akitas never felt fear like it in my life and duke went for it .
2nd time a 9 year old girl has her sbt out walking i was walking mine on the other side of the road she let hers go bang fight on couldnt beleive it I was a mess and so shocked after

gem wrote:Its happened to me 2 times the first time my front door wasnt shut properly (learned a lesson ill never forget that day) and the wind blew it open duke 7 months ran out just as a woman was walking passed with 2 akitas never felt fear like it in my life and duke went for it .
2nd time a 9 year old girl has her sbt out walking i was walking mine on the other side of the road she let hers go bang fight on couldnt beleive it I was a mess and so shocked after

So how did you seperate them, and were any of the dogs hurt?

Can I throw this out.

What do people think about walking the dog, off lead, along a pavement next to a v busy road?

I find that a lot of people do this, and fair enough, they are likely the sort of dog that tends to stick close, but dogs are dogs, and could be distracted in front of another car, or some such thing?

That's how I always feel when I see that, anyway..

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

gem wrote:Its happened to me 2 times the first time my front door wasnt shut properly (learned a lesson ill never forget that day) and the wind blew it open duke 7 months ran out just as a woman was walking passed with 2 akitas never felt fear like it in my life and duke went for it .
2nd time a 9 year old girl has her sbt out walking i was walking mine on the other side of the road she let hers go bang fight on couldnt beleive it I was a mess and so shocked after

So how did you seperate them, and were any of the dogs hurt?

Mine had collar and lead and so did the other dog luckily, I really dont know were my strenth came from mine had hold of the other dog and it couldnt move he was trying to shake I just kept him still as I could and kept shouting leave it he released his grip and the other dog ran but he tried again and got hold of my arm I screamed and he let go instantly and just stood there looking at me as if to say (what did you do that for)
The other dog had puncture marks but could of been a lot worse

gem wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

gem wrote:Its happened to me 2 times the first time my front door wasnt shut properly (learned a lesson ill never forget that day) and the wind blew it open duke 7 months ran out just as a woman was walking passed with 2 akitas never felt fear like it in my life and duke went for it .
2nd time a 9 year old girl has her sbt out walking i was walking mine on the other side of the road she let hers go bang fight on couldnt beleive it I was a mess and so shocked after

So how did you seperate them, and were any of the dogs hurt?

Mine had collar and lead and so did the other dog luckily, I really dont know were my strenth came from mine had hold of the other dog and it couldnt move he was trying to shake I just kept him still as I could and kept shouting leave it he released his grip and the other dog ran but he tried again and got hold of my arm I screamed and he let go instantly and just stood there looking at me as if to say (what did you do that for)
The other dog had puncture marks but could of been a lot worse

I suppose the one advantage of having a resiliant dog, is that if (god forbid!), someone does go through that, if there Staff (for instance), was attacked by another dog, then while damage can be done, it is not likely to be fatal.

I would worry more if I had a smaller dog, as it might die after a moderate attack.

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

gem wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

gem wrote:Its happened to me 2 times the first time my front door wasnt shut properly (learned a lesson ill never forget that day) and the wind blew it open duke 7 months ran out just as a woman was walking passed with 2 akitas never felt fear like it in my life and duke went for it .
2nd time a 9 year old girl has her sbt out walking i was walking mine on the other side of the road she let hers go bang fight on couldnt beleive it I was a mess and so shocked after

So how did you seperate them, and were any of the dogs hurt?

Mine had collar and lead and so did the other dog luckily, I really dont know were my strenth came from mine had hold of the other dog and it couldnt move he was trying to shake I just kept him still as I could and kept shouting leave it he released his grip and the other dog ran but he tried again and got hold of my arm I screamed and he let go instantly and just stood there looking at me as if to say (what did you do that for)
The other dog had puncture marks but could of been a lot worse

I suppose the one advantage of having a resiliant dog, is that if (god forbid!), someone does go through that, if there Staff (for instance), was attacked by another dog, then while damage can be done, it is not likely to be fatal.

I would worry more if I had a smaller dog, as it might die after a moderate attack.

I felt awful and I found out were they lived and went round the day after 1 to see if the dog was okay and 2 to have my say about a child being in control of a dog that she obviously cant control and showed her mother the scars on my arms. I dont let mine off lead because I dont trust him with other dogs and he is always under control but a situation like this then not much you can do.
I feel sorry for little dogs that get attacked and witnessed a attack by a young sbt and a shitzu just last week but the same old hes never done that before

When i have had to stop a dog fight, twice being with my boy taz i have always grabbed cheek/scruff of both dogs and pretty much slammed (I say slammed because it took a heck of alot to tilt them and get them off balance) to the floor and pin them there, till they leave go keeping ahold of both cheeks.
You should never keep ahold of the dogs leash, you'll just stop them from protecting themselves.
Punture wounds are not as bad as tear wounds would be which is why i hold and pin the dogs so they can not tear they can only hold.

gem wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

gem wrote:

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:

gem wrote:Its happened to me 2 times the first time my front door wasnt shut properly (learned a lesson ill never forget that day) and the wind blew it open duke 7 months ran out just as a woman was walking passed with 2 akitas never felt fear like it in my life and duke went for it .
2nd time a 9 year old girl has her sbt out walking i was walking mine on the other side of the road she let hers go bang fight on couldnt beleive it I was a mess and so shocked after

So how did you seperate them, and were any of the dogs hurt?

Mine had collar and lead and so did the other dog luckily, I really dont know were my strenth came from mine had hold of the other dog and it couldnt move he was trying to shake I just kept him still as I could and kept shouting leave it he released his grip and the other dog ran but he tried again and got hold of my arm I screamed and he let go instantly and just stood there looking at me as if to say (what did you do that for)
The other dog had puncture marks but could of been a lot worse

I suppose the one advantage of having a resiliant dog, is that if (god forbid!), someone does go through that, if there Staff (for instance), was attacked by another dog, then while damage can be done, it is not likely to be fatal.

I would worry more if I had a smaller dog, as it might die after a moderate attack.

I felt awful and I found out were they lived and went round the day after 1 to see if the dog was okay and 2 to have my say about a child being in control of a dog that she obviously cant control and showed her mother the scars on my arms. I dont let mine off lead because I dont trust him with other dogs and he is always under control but a situation like this then not much you can do.I feel sorry for little dogs that get attacked and witnessed a attack by a young sbt and a shitzu just last week but the same old hes never done that before

Sensible, and no, something like that, cannot really be accounted for.

What do you tend to do if you are walking your dog on a lead, and another dog is coming in the opposite direction, but also on a lead?

Assuming you would cross paths, on a normal pavement width.

MissRogue wrote:When i have had to stop a dog fight, twice being with my boy taz i have always grabbed cheek/scruff of both dogs and pretty much slammed (I say slammed because it took a heck of alot to tilt them and get them off balance) to the floor and pin them there, till they leave go keeping ahold of both cheeks.
You should never keep ahold of the dogs leash, you'll just stop them from protecting themselves.
Punture wounds are not as bad as tear wounds would be which is why i hold and pin the dogs so they can not tear they can only hold.

Yeah, that is what one person told me, although you can see why some do.

I have even heard of people picking their dogs up, and not esp small one's either!

I heard of another method in which, and I kid you not, sticking a finger up the dogs backside is meant to be effective, but know what, I'm not going there, no way.

Ti Amo Edinburgh wrote:Can I throw this out.

What do people think about walking the dog, off lead, along a pavement next to a v busy road?

It's irresponsible. There could be any number of things could distract your dog.

MissRogue wrote:
Punture wounds are not as bad as tear wounds would be which is why i hold and pin the dogs so they can not tear they can only hold.

Puncture wounds can be every bit as dangerous as tears. Because the entry is small & the trauma to underlying tissue is proportionately great there is a very real risk of subsequent serious infection.

I agree, yet I see it here, a LOT, Caryll.

I always worry about this becasue their are soo many rotties & mastiffs around here, what i worry all the time is taking them out their 2 rottie or mastiff loose without owners ,

how are you going stop 2 rottie or mastiff killing your dog?!?!?!?

Steve wrote:I always worry about this becasue their are soo many rotties & mastiffs around here, what i worry all the time is taking them out their 2 rottie or mastiff loose without owners ,

how are you going stop 2 rottie or mastiff killing your dog?!?!?!?

Most dog fights don't result in a fatality, thankfully.

Sometimes, for all the noise and aggression, the damage can be fairly minimal.

Also, were your staff attacked by a mastiff, I think it would be able to hold it's own, and not be killed.

Even when I street walk Ti Amo, I tend to keep a clear view of all that is coming toward me, as there are too many that walk large breeds, off lead, in the city centre.

If you were in the US, you would be able to carry a pepper spray, and since these can stop bear attacks, I would imagine that they would work, were your dog attacked by another, and you got a shot of it, right in it's eyes. It would probably let go, and you could make good your escape.

Alas, it is actually classed as a firearm here, in the UK.

I do also if i see rottie or mastiff i normal turn away and go another way, i was talking about 2 rotties or 2 mastiffs how you going stop that.... 1 would be ok but 2 winding each other up eggy each other on give me a nightmares thinking about it

Steve wrote:I do also if i see rottie or mastiff i normal turn away and go another way, i was talking about 2 rotties or 2 mastiffs how you going stop that.... 1 would be ok but 2 winding each other up eggy each other on give me a nightmares thinking about it

I don't know if you could, not if it were full on, and there were no owners in sight.

Hopefully it is a somewhat rare scenrario, and one which people here do not have to experience, to find out.

i stuggle getting 2 boxers off my sam when he was a pup getting 2 rottie or mastiff it would scre the hell of me

I guess it would be legal to carry some sort of cane/stick, if you were really worried. Not perfect, but it may offer some further protection, if the circs were extreme?

My boy walks very well on the lead he is very well trained but has a comfort zone that he will tolerate other dogs. If I need to walk past another I do so with a short lead and my boy close to my leg

Gem what would you do if 2 rottie or mastiff was attacking one of your dogs?

Steve wrote:Gem what would you do if 2 rottie or mastiff was attacking one of your dogs?

I dont want to think about that and what can you do I know my instinct would be to protect my dog if it meant me getting attacked if I could get to one of them then the dogs would have better chance to defend themselves. I dont agree with letting go of a lead if possible as knowing a stafford as I do it will keep going back for another go.
The bigger dogs do have the power and strenth but the stafford has skill and are so quick thinking they will have a good go if wound up enough. Having said that id probably just screem for help and freeze.

Caryll wrote:
Puncture wounds can be every bit as dangerous as tears. Because the entry is small & the trauma to underlying tissue is proportionately great there is a very real risk of subsequent serious infection.

All wounds should be seen by a vet, but what i am saying is that punture wounds are not as dangerous there and then as tear wounds would be.
Dogs canines are pretty blunt at the tip so they can only pierce but at the back of the canines is like a razer which can tear through artaries and other vital areas which would cause a bleed out, so at that present moment it is extremely important to stop the tearing by holding them still.

The closest to a problem I ever had, was when I had my Bull Terrier, who I got as a rescue, aged 8. I had only had him two days, and took him for a walk on the lead, in a nearby field. This Dalmatian came sprinting toward us, jumped on his back.

Thankfully, there were only a couple of tiny scratches on his back.

I had seen the dog before, it had a dog aggression problem, and was owned by a cop who lived on my estate. What a mouthful I gave him, copper or not. He even came round later, to see if my Bullie was okay. I made it clear to him that if I saw his dog off lead again there 'would be problems'.

I didn't let go the lead in that situation, and my Bullie didn't even try to fight back.

If i ever felt my boys where in danger from another animal like in your first post i wouldnt hesistate to let go of their leads. My hubby always carrys a big wooden walking stick type thing when walking the dogs for exactly that reason. 1. Ty can be DA with certain dogs and he has used the stick to "redirect" another off lead dog away from Ty before and 2. we have a couple of extremely irresponsible and very old large breed dog owners around are way, 1 in particular who is in a wheel chair and lets his GSD off lead at the top of the field, lets in run riot for half and hour then takes another half hour trying to get it back on the lead then goes. Twice when kaos was a pup the dog picked him up by the scruff and shook him, hubby has used his stick in no uncertain terms on the dog and threatened the owner with the same treatment. x

blaze wrote: hubby has used his stick in no uncertain terms on the dog and threatened the owner with the same treatment. x

blaze wrote:If i ever felt my boys where in danger from another animal like in your first post i wouldnt hesistate to let go of their leads. My hubby always carrys a big wooden walking stick type thing when walking the dogs for exactly that reason. 1. Ty can be DA with certain dogs and he has used the stick to "redirect" another off lead dog away from Ty before and 2. we have a couple of extremely irresponsible and very old large breed dog owners around are way, 1 in particular who is in a wheel chair and lets his GSD off lead at the top of the field, lets in run riot for half and hour then takes another half hour trying to get it back on the lead then goes. Twice when kaos was a pup the dog picked him up by the scruff and shook him, hubby has used his stick in no uncertain terms on the dog and threatened the owner with the same treatment. x

I hope he doesn't, you might miss him!