why so much hate......

I'm sorry I wouldn't be able to say I've ever experienced this on a 100% basis , try reading this and see if it gives you any ideas

http://staffy-bull-terrier.com/dog_body_language

Maybe you could pop over and say hi

https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/f7-new-member-introductions

Thanks Dave I did read that before I posted. And Yes I will do that now Janey

Welcome he looks lovely, feel free to post pics of him

Hmm...if it's all the time, it does sound like he might be the cause of any problems, but if it was something big, you'd probably know. Are the dogs you come across OK with other dogs, or are they like that with your other dog too?

Louk wrote:All the dogs he comes in to contact with are usually fine with other dogs, even today one of the ladies said "I've never seen my dog do that, he has never bit any dog before"
I just don't know what to do about it, I'm just glad my boy doesn't retaliate... but there is only so much one dog can take before he snaps back and I really don't want this to happen.

Maybe you could try a consultation with a good behaviourist , maybe they can just spot something that you can't . Based on the evidence in front of you and what everyone else is telling you it seems like you're poor little fella is doing something wrong but neither of you know what it is

had a massive break through this evening, nice long walk in the woods and he encountered 3 dogs and none of them growled, barked or snapped at him. one spaniel even had a play with him the only difference today is that I actually let him off the lead and let him run free, A little progress but I feel better than I did yesterday

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Thats great progress well done and a fab pic Xx

He looks gorgeous ! Love his markings and big smile x

Maybe he's picking up on some energy of yours/other people at the school gates? Do you feel stressed there? Best thing you can do is build your own confidence and know that you, your dog and your family will get through this. It will be fine. Try not to panic when it happens. Also, it's not on that dogs bite! Stay confident, in control and loving to your dog and I'm sure you will start understanding what is going on. How does he compare to a lurcher? I've always been interested to know...

That is very encouraging news Lou, and it seems that the clue is that Ollie was off-lead.

Obviously you can't have Ollie off-lead all of the time, so as Dave suggests, a behaviourist might be able to spot if Ollie is giving any "keep-off" signals whilst he's on the lead. Some dogs (well, quite a lot in my experience) do feel vulnerable when on the lead and give off vibes to other dogs and some vibes are more obvious to us humans than others.

I do wish you the best of luck in getting to bottom of this problem and finding a way out of it - please let us know how you and Ollie progress ><

Hi, just want to say you not alone in this. My Deebo is the same. Most of the dogs we meet on walk want to bite him etc. But only when he's on the lead. When off the lead they will play with my boy. Someone said it might be his posture. As a bull type his approach is tall ,head up,chest upfront. Some dogs can read this wrong.

Great pic and glad you are experiencing some progress

I think staffs bodies are physically different to any other dog so their stance can just seem aggressive to others. That's my theory anyway lol

That is fab progress - wish i could trust mine to be off lead. Hope it continues though x

That big smile of his is wonderful! ><

I am lucky in that Charlie seems to be liked by 90% of dogs, his rescue and foster people did a very good job of socialising him and he seems to get doggy body language. Sounds like Ollie would love to play, so I hope that things continue to improve.

I've spoken to several people with less friendly dogs while on our walkies and a few have said to me that their dogs don't like other dogs if the other dog is on a lead, but once off the lead they are happier. Perhaps the pulling on the lead does give them a more "grrr" posture?

Another lady has a dog who doesn't like entire males. She has to have a discreet peep at the other dog's undercarriage before deciding whether they will get along!

Welcome and what a great looking boy! Glad there was progress. I have no idea but glad it hasn't happened to me though. Monte doesn't put up with any dog behaving aggressive to him even though he is super dog-friendly. If one goes for him he stands his ground. Frosty (my other male) sounds more like yours as he wouldn't retaliate either. I think you have a very well tempered dog there by the sound of it. He just needs more good experiences and to stay away from those other dogs at pickup! Could be that in a loud and rambunctious environment, other dog breeds can be more on edge. Such a great thing that Staffs in general are very stable.

Oh he is a lovely looking lad!

ah - you didn't tell us about rearing up on his back legs (he thinks he's a horse!). Sounds all good. I am certain that now that he knows you want to see change, he will do everything to please you and make things better.

Is it really true that other dogs aren't as funny as Staffs? It is music to my ears, of course...

Oh, the rearing up on the back legs like a horse! Kuchar does this too, but only when on the lead. His paws come up beside his ears, he's just wanting to play and he looks so cute from my end of the lead but I do realise that some people and/or dogs might see it differently.

He is still young & knows no different but if other dogs continue to have a go especially when he's coming up to 2 years old he WILL retaliate at some stage , as scary as it is he will then relise he's not a push over but hopefully with plenty of socialising he will continue to be good with other dogs & other dogs won't be so quick to have a go at him & respect him.
My old dog was very similar & I know of other Staffy owners that encountered a similar thing to you, but it will pass & I believe it's just part of them growing up.

The picture is fantastic & we can all see that he has the right foundations to be a dog anyone would be proud of