Presa Carnario

These dogs look INTENSE! Bred for working with Cattle of the coast of spain in the early 1900s

Weirdly it doesn't seem to be on the UK banned list which is a tad worrying! but I'll stick with my Staff!



What are you favorite out-of-the-ordinary dog breeds? (And im sure this has been asked a million times)

i think they fall under TYPE over here i think

They are usually on the banned lists. Same though because they are great dogs

Wow, gorgeous dog that

I just can't imagine how powerful they could be in the wrong hands! Staffs get it bad enough for being brought up wrong, imagine one of these! I definitely wouldn't have the balls to put my foot down if it came to it!

I agree though , it is a beautiful dog, and a stunning example of the breed!

To me they just look like a mastiff lol

also, why is it worrying that they are not on the banned list?

Hayley wrote:also, why is it worrying that they are not on the banned list?

In my area most staffs are a status symbol, bought to show off power, used to protect them in fights and be aggressive to others. They are badly treated, abused making them unpredictable and vicious, I couldn't imagine what it would be like if some of the pikeys were to get a Preso Carnario!

As always its the minority that have to ruin it for the majority!

(edit for unhappy smiley)

Loki's half Presa Canario. Only thing he got from it was the colour and eye colour from his dad though, his temperament is 100% Staff, he's an absolute friendly, lovable wimp . Definitely lovely dogs but terrible in the wrong hands, a breed for experienced large breed dog owners, for sure.

I was at a farm yesterday where the farmer has a MASSIVE warning sign in red to warn people not to leave their vehicle as his dog WILL attack you.

He has a Border Collie, which is unbelievably aggressive.

I wouldn't be afraid of a Presa any more than any other breed if I'm honest.

MatLogan wrote:I was at a farm yesterday where the farmer has a MASSIVE warning sign in red to warn people not to leave their vehicle as his dog WILL attack you.

He has a Border Collie, which is unbelievably aggressive.

I wouldn't be afraid of a Presa any more than any other breed if I'm honest.

Know what you mean Matt, we went to a mates wedding in the Brecon Beacons in Wales, went for a drive in the beautifull mountains the day before cus we rented a house for the two days, and driving past a farm entrance (pretty remote) this crazy ar$e Collie shot out of nowhere, and started biting the tyres on my 4x4 ... wouldnt have fancied meetin the bloody thing on foot .. it must have chased us for half a mile

Strangely Andy this dog yesterday attacked my vehicle too!

Some of the nastiest dogs in the world are the typically loved breeds.

My brother also bit badly on the leg by a collie, and also bit another neighbour who had to have skin graphs it was that bad. Hence He is very wary of them now!

I'm going a bit off topic I guess but at the same time I'm saying don't be fooled by big muscly dogs being dangerous.

There was a story in The Sun newspaper (I bet a lot of you saw it) about a girl who had been seriously attacked/disfigured by a dog attack in a back garden.

The story was flooded with pics of staffs looking mean etc. I read it and about 4-5 paragraphs down it said "the dog which was a Border Collie..."

Basically, if they had put pictures of Collies herding sheep the story wouldn't have had the same impact.

It's all scaremongering, for the most part these dogs are all absolutely excellent.

They are a gorgeous powerful looking dog which sadly means they would be attracted to the half wits. We all know what that means.

All dogs can be aggressive and cause damage, definitely, but I think what's meant is that the huge, powerful dogs can do more damage. An aggressive Chihuahua is unlikely to hurt you as much as an equally aggressive Presa Canario. So I think that's what's meant.

MatLogan wrote:I was at a farm yesterday where the farmer has a MASSIVE warning sign in red to warn people not to leave their vehicle as his dog WILL attack you.

He has a Border Collie, which is unbelievably aggressive.

He's now breaking the law by having an uncontrolled, aggressive dog on his premises.

Not that that'll bother him.

im with the others that say i would be no more scared by a Presa Canario than any other breed infact the only breed im a little weary of is the GSD for a couple of reasons .
my mates american bulldog looks scarey and he very powerfull but he is the softest big lump you could ever come across .
tyson at about 12 months he a lot bigger and muscled now

he has almost knocked me off my feet a few times when he has come to greet me with a kiss

He's gorgeous

What a handsome dog!

He's lovely

The dog in the first post is far more muscular than Presas tend to be. This is far more representative of the breed:

What a dog warren!!

MatLogan wrote:What a dog warren!!

and he the most softest of dogs but the ammount of excersise to tier him out is unbelivable

only dog that scare me are rotties everyone i have meet wants to rip my throat out i alway cross the road if i see one coming i dont care if it a friendly one

Steve wrote:only dog that scare me are rotties everyone i have meet wants to rip my throat out i alway cross the road if i see one coming i dont care if it a friendly one

st bernards give me funny looks wasnt bothered untill i found out they were part of the same family as rotties

I'm wary of certain dogs, but not really any breed. There's a G Retriever that tries for Logan everytime they see each other and when it can't get him it'll try for me. My uncles GSD is the epitome of "dangerous dog", it simply wants everything dead.

Then a few dogs I know from walks I know to stay away from.

Tara wrote:All dogs can be aggressive and cause damage, definitely, but I think what's meant is that the huge, powerful dogs can do more damage. An aggressive Chihuahua is unlikely to hurt you as much as an equally aggressive Presa Canario. So I think that's what's meant.

This is what I meant! and also there was a Collie on the horse yard near me alongside a Rottweiler, the rotty was aggressive before you come in the gate but afterwards was the soppiest thing, however the collie used to hang back and bark viciously winding the rotty up again, was a proper struggle to get them both calmed down so you could get on!

Now the collie has gone The rotty is perfectly pleasant!

And Warren and Chris they are beautiful dogs! If I had the space and the experience I would love one, but like I said in one of my posts, I don't think at the moment I would have the balls to use negative reinforcement if the situation arose!

Going off topic, but my family has always had dogs, and I've looked after many but never had to be a full part of the training process, we're trying to use positive reinforcement as much as possible by ignoring Jay and not validating bad behavior with any attention and praising him when he does the right thing, but what situations would you consider worthy of a tap on the snoz?

-Martin

turtle342 wrote:what situations would you consider worthy of a tap on the snoz?

Short answer fella, none!

These things only make a dog hand shy and subsequently a lot worse.

My Logan is a big dog but he can be kept under control with patience and the right tone of voice.

If anyone was to tap him on the nose they'd end up with a broken arm...and it wouldn't be from Logan

None. Although it won't physically hurt them, they're sensitive souls a tap on the nose can either make them think you're playing, or make them wary of you in the future, weaken the bond between you, etc.

For the record, just because the dog is a large breed and powerful and needs an experienced owner, doesn't mean it needs any negative or harsher methods. You can train any dog, big or small, to be very well-behaved with nothing but positive training methods

I did think that would be your response and it's always good to know! we did a lot of research before adopting this little fella and that was the overall tone of all of the stuff we were reading!

Just take your time with him and eventually it'll click. My fella was an absolute nightmare at a time but he is now the most gentle and easy to look after dog I could possibly ask for