Jeremy vine radio 2

I got to say I'm absolutely disgusted with Jeremy vines debate on staffys today.. With reference to the little girl getting killed this week... Staffy staffy staffy.. Next to nothing about bull mastiffs which there were 2 off as well.. The boys I work with have met koda and think she's lovely but even they were umming and arring about it being the breed not the owners... That guy really didn't help today..

I read about it but I'm putting off listening because they are hard to listen to tbh.

Mentioned this in the news section. The guy's mind was well made up

I was listening to this too, very disappointed in Jeremy Vine tbh, it sounded more like something from the tabloids than the BBC. Cannot believe some of the comments afterwards either.

He's a muppet ! That's all I have to say on the matter !

I don't pay any attention to things like that, they just infuriate me because they're full of stupidity. If those people apply the same logic to people, they'd be racists. But racism is stupid, but singling out dog breeds makes sense? Nah, just stupid.

canthavethat wrote:Mentioned this in the news section. The guy's mind was well made up

Wasnt it!!! now i got home and im still peed off .. all he kept saying to owners was well you dont hear about it with poodles... ive spat my dummy out all day about it... what does he think poodles dont bite.. thing is noone would report a poodle bite cos they would sound stupid or if it was a lab they would find an excuse for it so other dogs get a free ride.. what about the bull mastiffs he didnt say much about them did he.. picked once or twice on rotts but it was a blatent witch hunt on staffs... the guys a *.!!!!!!

I'm glad I didn't listen to it by the sound of it, these things anger and upset
me too much!!

Seen him in action on other stuff so can sort of imagine how he came across , the d1ck

I had it on in the car but turned it off cos i knew it would be a witch hunt on our babies

It makes me so angry...... I was walking Coco with my 3 year old tody and i got yelled at for letting that type of dog off and arround a child etc... when people like Jeremy vine rant well i don't think its lady like to say..... but they are extreemly irrisponsible.
All dogs can be dangerous if they arent treated right, which can also be said about people.

kris82 wrote:It makes me so angry...... I was walking Coco with my 3 year old tody and i got yelled at for letting that type of dog off and arround a child etc... when people like Jeremy vine rant well i don't think its lady like to say..... but they are extreemly irrisponsible.
All dogs can be dangerous if they arent treated right, which can also be said about people.

Think she would have got a mouthfull off me

She did believe me, i have never come across anything like it before with my little boy next to me as well...

I hate that kind of show, if they arnt going to have an informed debate on the matter its not worth listening too. sadley the easily lead "I'm to dumb to form my own opinion" mob love it, I can imagine them dusting their pitch forks off now.

Only one word for those sort of people "Thick"

Used to think it was a decent show,untill today.when one person rang in to give her support for her staffie that w***er said has it killed anyone yet.total utter garbage will never ever listen again.rant over.

i'm just starting to listen to it now, i'll get back to this...

for an "impartial" debate, thats appaling. they keep mentioning "two bull mastiff's and two staffordshire bull terriers", as far as i'm aware the breeds are still yet to be confirmed.

he has a go at one caller who allows her yound grandchild near a staff, asking if its stressful to watch her grandchild round "a dog like that?" as far as i'm aware a young child should be watched with any dog, regardless of size/age/breed/temrement etc. "but he could be maimed for life by that dog", i still have scars 16 years after being bitten by a border collie, altho not facially, i'm scarred for life by an unprovoked attack. it can happen with ANY dog.

keeps saying "its never poodles", from experiance i wouldnt want to go near one of them, tempremental and snappy.

the lawyer Nick Freeman (Mr. Loophole, used to get celebs off speeding and driving charges with ridiculous ease, look up some of his work, its astounding) was a shining light, explaining the KC's recomendation of a staffy as a family dog.

overall, i'm dissapointed, its supposed to be impartial, unbiased debate, and he had a side taken before he started. if he believes the media hype, then more fool him.

asa-james wrote:for an "impartial" debate, thats appaling. they keep mentioning "two bull mastiff's and two staffordshire bull terriers", as far as i'm aware the breeds are still yet to be confirmed.

he has a go at one caller who allows her yound grandchild near a staff, asking if its stressful to watch her grandchild round "a dog like that?" as far as i'm aware a young child should be watched with any dog, regardless of size/age/breed/temrement etc. "but he could be maimed for life by that dog", i still have scars 16 years after being bitten by a border collie, altho not facially, i'm scarred for life by an unprovoked attack. it can happen with ANY dog.

keeps saying "its never poodles", from experiance i wouldnt want to go near one of them, tempremental and snappy.

the lawyer Nick Freeman (Mr. Loophole, used to get celebs off speeding and driving charges with ridiculous ease, look up some of his work, its astounding) was a shining light, explaining the KC's recomendation of a staffy as a family dog.

overall, i'm dissapointed, its supposed to be impartial, unbiased debate, and he had a side taken before he started. if he believes the media hype, then more fool him.

Well said

The guys a tool, along with all the other haters out there. I'm not on facebook myself, but I went on my mums before to look on a page dedicated to the girl. Some of the comments relating to staffs were disgusting. I had to stop reading the page.

Just as a heads up, staffies are one of today's topics as well...

Just listened to today's follow-up. Lots of people defending staffies. Calls from people who HAVE been savaged by poodles, including a standard poodle owner saying how strong and vicious they can be. Plus the usual ban the breed stuff, none from anyone with any experience of staffies. Last comment aired was along the lines of - "the reason people buy staffies is as an extension to their own aggressive violent anti-social personalities" omg the ignorance

Complained about that idiot too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

Its television/radio. He will have been told what opinion to have, this may not reflect his actual opinion. He might not give a hoot.

The BBC are supposed to be impartial though, which gives clear grounds for a complaint in this instance. If they don't resolve it satisfactorily, then it can be escalated to Offcom.

You could well be correct, but it's always worth standing up for what's right - in my opinion of course

Hayley wrote:Its television/radio. He will have been told what opinion to have, this may not reflect his actual opinion. He might not give a hoot.

Its the BBC's responsability to provide a balanced opinion, I don't think they did on this occasion which is why complaints shoud be raised.

The guy is an idiot... he's getting a right hard time on twitter which is great! So much for a 'debate'. If I called in and he asked me if my staffy had killed anyone yet, he'd get a piece of my mind!

Il be listening to today's a bit later as was out on job today so il get back to this... By looks of it I'm not gonna like it again... Emailed him last night with my view and my number.. I didn't think he'd ring to discuss after the email he got..

Just listened to this online, what a disgusting human being this man is! I can't believe he is allowed to talk like that to callers that does not share his view

Dan330 wrote:

Hayley wrote:Its television/radio. He will have been told what opinion to have, this may not reflect his actual opinion. He might not give a hoot.

Its the BBC's responsability to provide a balanced opinion, I don't think they did on this occasion which is why complaints shoud be raised.

Well if that's why they are supposed to do they failed with that peado. So it's wouldn't shock me if they did it again.

Just to clarify, I don't even know who this Jeremy vine is.

Listened to Jeremy Vine's discussion on Radio 2 yesterday on the subject of dangerous dogs in the aftermath of the tragic death of Jade Anderson. I normally enjoy the debates on this show but this one was so biased as to be ridiculous. The fact that there were 2 mastiffs involved in the attack was barely mentioned and he repeatedly made negative comments and observations when anyone supportive of the Staffy breed phoned in, while giving credence to a so called expert who had an obvious dislike of dogs. This " expert " even stated that, in his opinion China had the right attitude to dogs, limiting them to one dog per household, and these were mainly for culinary purposes. He had one caller who had been jumped on and grabbed by what she THOUGHT was a Staffy. She didn't even know for sure!! How can that be an informed contribution to the debate?? He repeatedly referred to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier as " a potentially dangerous dog ". Of course they are " potentially " dangerous, as are numerous breeds of dog. What a stupid meaningless observation. Fact: The Kennel Club UK recognises more than 190 breeds of dog. Of these 190 odd breeds they consider only 2 breeds suitable for families with children The Staffordshire Bull Terrier being one. The following is an extract from the breed description.


Temperament

"Although individual differences in personality exist, common traits exist throughout the Staffords. Due to its breeding, the modern dog is known for its character of indomitable courage, high intelligence, and tenacity. This, coupled with its affection for its friends, its off-duty quietness and trustworthy stability, make it a foremost all-purpose dog. It has been said that "No breed is more loving with its family" It is the only breed to have the words 'totally reliable' in its breed standard. Furthermore, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is one of only two breeds from over 190 recognized by the UK Kennel Club to have a mention of the breed's suitability with children. "


Reputable breeders will breed for temperament as well as breed standards, but unfortunately many of the Staffies we see roaming our streets have been bred by back-street breeders who sell them indiscriminately to anyone wanting a status dog. These buyers seldom take the trouble to socialise or train their dogs, preferring to be the proud owners of an animal which all too often turns out to be almost as socially inept as it's owner.

Having said all that, it was a terrible way for that kid to die and, while we Staffy lovers will no doubt have to tolerate abuse regardless of how our individual dogs behave, this is nothing compared to what her parents must be going through.
P.S.
Listened to today's debate which was brought on by the number of complaints regarding Wednesdays discussion. It was much more balanced but he seems determined to demonise the breed.

Make your voices heard at the BBC, http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

I know alot of people have already complained about that show but it wouldnt hurt to add your opinion too

I cannot stand Jeremy Vine on any subject.

I made my complaint to the BBC, on the above mentioned show. I normally listen to him, but of late he is really getting on my nerves. He continually shouts at and over his guests, which is very off putting. He will give more air time the the one that he is in agreement with and will very often cut the opposing guest off.. He is meant to get both sides of the argument, and allow both sides of the argument to come over, but this does not apply with him. He reports hear say and factually incorrect nonsense. Declaring it to be NEWS, this is what is called as scare mongering. His answer is to destroy all these type's of dogs.. Does that mean he wants all dogs killed, as any dog has the potential to be aggressive.. I can't imagine what is going on in his head. Very bad reporting...

Must admit I normally enjoy his radio show but sent in a complaint about that "debate".