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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:07

crap! literally!

I got a few little sample bags of fish4dogs food in a secret santa i did for the boys so i thought they would make good training treats for in the house, which they are they are these from this little offer if anyone is interested:

http://www.fish4dogs.com/Products/adult-goody-bag.aspx

Anyway next door have a new dog and Chance barks and growls at the door when they walk down the jitty, so took my chance to do some training with the boys. Anyway the little bags went down a treat haha

UNTIL we went for a walk where they both erm left me the biggest, stinkiest mountain of poop EVER! and no they didn't have loads and loads of kibble, probably 10ish bits each maybe a bit more.

Now i'm used to tiny little rabbit sized raw poop, so this was well sick

No point just wanted to share Big Grin haha

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Post by Mark Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:11

our 2 both dump massive so its pretty normal for us Laughing
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:13

Laughing i'm very nooooot used to it!

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:18

Logan isn't too bad thankfully lol! Fish4dogs stuff seems ace Big Grin

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:33

MatLogan wrote:Logan isn't too bad thankfully lol! Fish4dogs stuff seems ace Big Grin

it's good stuff but i couldn't feed kibble seeing how much comes back out Surprised

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:34

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:41

Tongues

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:44

I really shouldn't but .... silly

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:49

Laughing

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Post by maria0077 Mon Mar 18 2013, 18:57

Surprised Yes it's mad the size of poos you can see outside left after dogs.... Stella does wee cat-size ones on raw... She had to go to boarding (it was "home care" at somebody's home) for 4 days a month ago, I gave them her usual food and clear instructions, but she was still doing enormous ones when I picked her up, thankfully her stomach was not upset and she was oblivious and it only took a day or two... I would not like to feed her kibble never ever I dont want to s
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 19:01

nope never ever!

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 19:10

Hahaha lexi used to be hooge until i got her onto the wainwrights, now they are nice pick'em'up ones

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Post by Kathy Mon Mar 18 2013, 19:11

Sorry Ella just read this.

I saw something earlier that I thought were horse pats maybe not then Laughing
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 19:15

Kathy wrote:Sorry Ella just read this.

I saw something earlier that I thought were horse pats maybe not then Laughing

that's what it was like trying to pick up Straight Face

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 19:19

we still have some of them chunky things for our 2 which we haven't got through yet Smile

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 18 2013, 19:31

Dave wrote:we still have some of them chunky things for our 2 which we haven't got through yet Smile

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Post by Darylkstaffy Tue Mar 19 2013, 17:50

dont know why but i just imagined your face and burst out laughing lmao Laughing
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 18:24

Darylkstaffy wrote:dont know why but i just imagined your face and burst out laughing lmao Laughing

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Post by rebeccaleanne Tue Mar 19 2013, 18:34

Haha! Bless u! Tykes are nice pick me ups now since food change
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 19:03

Laughing I feel your pain, Milton's are pretty massive (and he's done 4 of them today, too...) I'm gonna put him on raw this week, now that he's had time to settle in. Hopefully I won't need to take a JCB with me on walks any more...

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 19:04

nice haha Laughing

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 19:13

I know I shouldn't say this as I've always fed manufactured dog food - I tried to get Kuchar interested in raw but he just won't touch it.

Anyway, the comments above reminded me of a saying that was going around in the early days of desktop computing and programming - GIGO.

(Garbage In Garbage Out) - no offence F4D Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 19:15

Lynda wrote:I know I shouldn't say this as I've always fed manufactured dog food - I tried to get Kuchar interested in raw but he just won't touch it.

Anyway, the comments above reminded me of a saying that was going around in the early days of desktop computing and programming - GIGO.

(Garbage In Garbage Out) - no offence F4D Smile

it's the same when they have had kibble as treats, as i don't like to waste things so if i get a sample bag i use it as treats and no matter what kibble i use the output will never compare to that of on raw

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 19:24

That is one reason why was I keen to feed raw - I can understand the logic that because most of the food is utilised internally there is less to get rid of the other end. And all the fillers that are in manufactured foods are useless to dogs so not only do the fillers absorb water and get more bulky, but they also go straight out the other end. Unfortunately my dog doesn't understand this logic and won't contemplate raw food.

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 19:29

Lynda wrote:That is one reason why was I keen to feed raw - I can understand the logic that because most of the food is utilised internally there is less to get rid of the other end. And all the fillers that are in manufactured foods are useless to dogs so not only do the fillers absorb water and get more bulky, but they also go straight out the other end. Unfortunately my dog doesn't understand this logic and won't contemplate raw food.

oh i know if you dog won't eat it you have no choice!

I'm just used to especially harvey who goes every other day and it's like a rabbits been, the difference is mad!

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 20:19

Actually Ella, I've been thinking ...

Although my spoilt brat won't look at raw meat, not even raw liver or raw bones, he loves it cooked. Also, he has to be persauded to eat his wretched kibbly stuff by a generous larding of cooked liver, a Wainwrights tray, or best of all by far - mixing in the cooked skin and gucky bits which we won't eat anyway of our roast chicken, roast lamb or roast beef (no cooked bones of course, except a carefully watched roasted lamb shoulder bone).

Now, if I got the liver, the hearts, the raw chicken etc (he won't look at fish in any form), and instead of trying to feed them raw - cooked them? Would this give the same benefits as feeding raw? ie no cereals. I'm not just talking poo here of course, although this was the original start of this topic, but overall nutrition for my dog?

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 20:21

that is a homecooked diet and can be done yes however it's a lot harder to do as you do need to supplement due to the loss off vitamins and minerals, and then you have to balance the Ca:P ratio

So yes alot of people do it easily it just takes alot of research before hand Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 20:38

Lynda wrote:(no cooked bones of course, except a carefully watched roasted lamb shoulder bone).

Shouldn't even have that! Sad

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 20:44

Thank you Ella, I think I'll look into it ....

Just one more question - when you give your dog (in the singular, as I've only got the one dog) a whole raw chicken, how long does the chicken last? Does he eat it all in one go and has something else the next day? Or ....?

Trying to get a grasp on quantities here ...

Thank you for your help!

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Post by Jenc Tue Mar 19 2013, 20:45

Do you want to borrow a shovel Ella Laughing


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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 20:47

Yeah I know Caryll, I have felt guilty on the very rare occasions he has had one Sad

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 21:06

Lynda wrote:Thank you Ella, I think I'll look into it ....

Just one more question - when you give your dog (in the singular, as I've only got the one dog) a whole raw chicken, how long does the chicken last? Does he eat it all in one go and has something else the next day? Or ....?

Trying to get a grasp on quantities here ...

Thank you for your help!

a whole chicken if i have them is one meal they eat a whole one in one meal.

however you could cut it up, so the wings, legs, breast, carcass and you would get lots more meals out of it

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 21:06

Jenc wrote:Do you want to borrow a shovel Ella Laughing

could have done with one!

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 19 2013, 21:17

Thank you Ella - bearing in mind I'd have to remove ALL the bones of a cooked chicken (hence the extra calcium supplements I'd have to give) one cooked chicken would only feed my dog for 2 days (given that your two dogs eat one chicken between them for one meal).

Ah well, I thought I'd explore it with someone who knows her stuff and I do thank you for your advice >Big Grin<

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20 2013, 13:37

No problem

Actually my two would eat a whole chicken each in meal the greedy sods

But yes it's very different doing home cooked I know a little but about if you need some help if you decide to go that way Smile

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 20 2013, 20:48

Ah thanks Ella, you're a pal. >Big Grin< for your help

I need to look into this further ....

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