Am i deluded?

There are many many posts on here over the years asking if they have a staffy or a pitbull and that if it is a pitbull they will get rid of it.

Now, this is why this annoys me. I got a staffy knowing the rep they had, knowing the aggression they can show and having worked with them,.it was my first "own" dog (aka not family dog) and i got one because of the loveable nature of the ones i worked with.

Now, to me, a pitbull (although not the same breed) has the exact same rep/potential for agression/lovely nature. (as with any dog really!)


So why is it that people get a staffy then say "if its got pit in it i don't want it" when they are technically so similar?

Am i mad?

most people dont know anything about pitbulls other than there banned. Ive worked with pitbulls in greece and there lovely IMO

its bad press,iggnorant people and the media i guess!! my pet hate is when u read the paper and another dog attack its 99% of the time 'pitbull type beast'

iv recently been watching that pitbull and paroless from america, big eye opener! Im just a firm believer that all dogs can be nasty in the wrong hands. were just unlucky that our breed is getting very bad press. we just need to keep marching on!!!

Yeah agree. My point is though that if your afraid of pitbulls why get a staffy when they're very similar in personality and looks? Doesn't make sense.

people are stupid....

Pitbulls were demonised in the UK when the ban came in - they were made out to be fearsome, unpredictable killers. If you sling enough mud, some of it will stick!

I also watch pit balls and parolees and they are similar to staffies, can't see much of a difference then they are more popular in the USA than a star and their ears can be more pointy and small, some use them for status like some use staffies and they are both discriminated against for being devil dogs but like any dog it's how they are raised.

I watch a lot of Animal planet is animal precinct and see pits abused a lot and the majority are lovely animals that just want love and affection, granted their are a lot that are bred for fighting and are to aggressive to re-home but that's the humans fault, never fear the dog on the lead, always fear the owner.

Pits, stafs, in love um all.

shazney wrote:I also watch pit balls and parolees and they are similar to staffies, can't see much of a difference then they are more popular in the USA than a star and their ears can be more pointy and small, some use them for status like some use staffies and they are both discriminated against for being devil dogs but like any dog it's how they are raised.

I watch a lot of Animal planet is animal precinct and see pits abused a lot and the majority are lovely animals that just want love and affection, granted their are a lot that are bred for fighting and are to aggressive to re-home but that's the humans fault, never fear the dog on the lead, always fear the owner.

Pits, stafs, in love um all.

there ears are cut that way by the owner

Oh right, that's something I don't agree with one bit, I should of known that as I have seen pits with longer ears doh@me

shazney wrote:I also watch pit balls and parolees and they are similar to staffies, can't see much of a difference then they are more popular in the USA than a star and their ears can be more pointy and small, some use them for status like some use staffies and they are both discriminated against for being devil dogs but like any dog it's how they are raised.

I watch a lot of Animal planet is animal precinct and see pits abused a lot and the majority are lovely animals that just want love and affection, granted their are a lot that are bred for fighting and are to aggressive to re-home but that's the humans fault, never fear the dog on the lead, always fear the owner.

Pits, stafs, in love um all.

Iv been doing alot reading on our breed, pitbulls and dog fighting. its unreal!! there was a dog up for rescue and this dog has been found hanging from a tree in huddersfield west yorkshire and had been stabbed in the face and body. they thought he had been a bait dog due to tell tale scaring.

if you think the ear cutting is bad, they file there teeth down and even cut there lips off!!

Any dog can be made agressive like you said do not fear the dog fear the owner!!

shazney wrote:Oh right, that's something I don't agree with one bit, I should of known that as I have seen pits with longer ears doh@me

its terrible isn't it..

When i was a little boy in Greece i used to play with a big puppy pitbull called Derby... He had lovely normal ears for weeks. But one day i came to play with him and he had a load of bloody bandages wrapped round his head but I was too young to understand at the time

yep people are so naive and believe everything the media tells them, and they have demonised the breed

'pitbulls' are amazing dogs and don't deserve the rep they have

we also have to remember that they are a very powerful breed that if in the wrong hands can be devastating.
There ancestral memory if fighting so thats why i dont think chavs, yobs and idiots should own them.
Great breed though and should be brought back by people that have a license to own one IMO.

There are far more powerful and people-aggressive breeds out there who aren't under restrictions. Unfortunately, pit bull types are perceived as being the toughest, meanest dogs, and so idiots will get them for those reasons.

People are just ignorant any dog can be aggressive and in the past few years with all the media cover about dog attacks they have involved numerous different types of dogs from jack russells too bull mastiffs, not only do they always start the news covering showing a a staffy type even when it hasn,t been that breed thats attacked, also you never see these other breeds being witch hunted like our beautiful breed, pitbulls are cousins too the staffy and have similar traits both are loving loyal and amazing family pets in responsible hands, if we own any big strong powerful dog we have too be responsible as they can cause damage if they do snap for whatever reasons, anyone would be niave too trust their dogs 100% they are animals and can,t always comminicate everything too us...!!
If you are a staffie lover then why would you discrimanate against pitbulls as if you read their history they both originated from a bulldog terrier cross and they characteristics are the same, my only worry about this as a responsible owner living in the UK is that pitbulls are inever illegal so i would never feel safe about owning a staffy pitcross, for legal reasons not fear of the breed.

crystel wrote:
If you are a staffie lover then why would you discrimanate against pitbulls as if you read their history they both originated from a bulldog terrier cross and they characteristics are the same, my only worry about this as a responsible owner living in the UK is that pitbulls are inever illegal so i would never feel safe about owning a staffy pitcross, for legal reasons not fear of the breed.

I hope thats what it is, cause in my mind they are both the same only slightly different breeds. If you are "afraid" of one, then you can't fully trust the other so don't get one then complain a month later that you're afraid of it because of the rep they get!

Hayley wrote:

crystel wrote:
If you are a staffie lover then why would you discrimanate against pitbulls as if you read their history they both originated from a bulldog terrier cross and they characteristics are the same, my only worry about this as a responsible owner living in the UK is that pitbulls are inever illegal so i would never feel safe about owning a staffy pitcross, for legal reasons not fear of the breed.

I hope thats what it is, cause in my mind they are both the same only slightly different breeds. If you are "afraid" of one, then you can't fully trust the other so don't get one then complain a month later that you're afraid of it because of the rep they get!

I totally agree you can never be a strong responsible dog owner if your scared of your dog...!!! Crazy people out there why would you even get a a bully breed if you have fears of them, but the sad fact is still too many people buy a breed of dog with complete ignorance and then give them up because they don,t suit them it makes me SO mad

Jason wrote:we also have to remember that they are a very powerful breed that if in the wrong hands can be devastating.
There ancestral memory if fighting so thats why i dont think chavs, yobs and idiots should own them.
Great breed though and should be brought back by people that have a license to own one IMO.

there are much much more powerful and 'dangerous' dog breeds out there that aren't banned, go figure

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:we also have to remember that they are a very powerful breed that if in the wrong hands can be devastating.
There ancestral memory if fighting so thats why i dont think chavs, yobs and idiots should own them.
Great breed though and should be brought back by people that have a license to own one IMO.

there are much much more powerful and 'dangerous' dog breeds out there that aren't banned, go figure

yeah true but I'm stating the reason why they are banned.. I didn't ban them lol. I love APT's

I know what you mean, it annoys me. I had no idea Staffs had that reputation, I knew that pitbulls did, but never really gave it any thought. Never met a pitbull before but I know that their temperament is very similar to that of Staffs, so they sound great to me. People are just easily tricked by what the media says; if they focus on one breed of dog, one race of people, one religion, culture, country, etc. people will believe they're focused on because they're where the majority of problems come from. When in reality it's not, it's just...idiocy. It's crazy that some Staff owners feel that way when Staffs are so similar and are depicted the same by the media, but if people believe what they're told, then that's why.

Actually, now that I think about it, it's really weird. There are a lot of breeds that are natural guard dogs or wary of anyone other than its owners, which isn't that big a step away from aggression, and yet they're not all banned (not that they should be). Yet pitbulls, Staffs, two dog breeds that might be the most affectionate and loving to humans, are the ones that are seen as dangerous. Very weird.

Jason wrote:

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:we also have to remember that they are a very powerful breed that if in the wrong hands can be devastating.
There ancestral memory if fighting so thats why i dont think chavs, yobs and idiots should own them.
Great breed though and should be brought back by people that have a license to own one IMO.

there are much much more powerful and 'dangerous' dog breeds out there that aren't banned, go figure

yeah true but I'm stating the reason why they are banned.. I didn't ban them lol. I love APT's

yes and i'm saying there is no proper reason why they were banned, there are bigger, much stronger breeds bred soley for fighting or baiting and yet still legal

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:we also have to remember that they are a very powerful breed that if in the wrong hands can be devastating.
There ancestral memory if fighting so thats why i dont think chavs, yobs and idiots should own them.
Great breed though and should be brought back by people that have a license to own one IMO.

there are much much more powerful and 'dangerous' dog breeds out there that aren't banned, go figure

yeah true but I'm stating the reason why they are banned.. I didn't ban them lol. I love APT's

yes and i'm saying there is no proper reason why they were banned, there are bigger, much stronger breeds bred soley for fighting or baiting and yet still legal

yeah true but they havnt attacked as many humans maybe? Idk

I think its because they're not as "fashionable"

Staffs and pits don't slobber and drool or cause a lot of mess, which most of the more "dangerous" breeds do lol

Jason wrote:

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:we also have to remember that they are a very powerful breed that if in the wrong hands can be devastating.
There ancestral memory if fighting so thats why i dont think chavs, yobs and idiots should own them.
Great breed though and should be brought back by people that have a license to own one IMO.

there are much much more powerful and 'dangerous' dog breeds out there that aren't banned, go figure

yeah true but I'm stating the reason why they are banned.. I didn't ban them lol. I love APT's

yes and i'm saying there is no proper reason why they were banned, there are bigger, much stronger breeds bred soley for fighting or baiting and yet still legal

yeah true but they havnt attacked as many humans maybe? Idk

all breeds have attacked people obviously and pitties haven't attacked that many and the same goes for all so called 'fighting' breeds, much less then your fluffy type dogs, it's literally the media jump on every single bite so makes it look like staff and pits count for every attack when we all know the don't

there was one about a lab mauling a little girl in the face not long ago, got like a 2 inch box in the corner of a paper. noone even knew about it

I took a pic cause the bottom bit annoyed me. It was a lab so they are all for finding out WHY it attacked, had it been a staff it would have been "cause it is a bad breed"

Other than the media and irresponsible handlers I don't see a reason why people are scared of pits. Any large dog not properly trained or threatened can be dangerous.

I think I heard somewhere that labs have the highest percentage attacks.. True?

Jason wrote:I think I heard somewhere that labs have the highest percentage attacks.. True?

I don't know about that, but i know that a lot of attacks don't get reported. They are one of the most owned breeds so its only natural that there are a higher percentage of bites. But the same can be said for jack russels

Hayley wrote:

Jason wrote:I think I heard somewhere that labs have the highest percentage attacks.. True?

I don't know about that, but i know that a lot of attacks don't get reported. They are one of the most owned breeds so its only natural that there are a higher percentage of bites. But the same can be said for jack russels

vicious little things lol.

Jason wrote:I think I heard somewhere that labs have the highest percentage attacks.. True?

labs and golden retrievers are normally the top biters

Jason wrote:I think I heard somewhere that labs have the highest percentage attacks.. True?

we heard that, and am sure staffys came out in good light on that one. I can remember my partner telling an anti staff member of the family!!!

Its so cruel how they treat pits in the dog fighting world and for what? To make a lousy few hundred quid, well, I would rather be skint.

Then to cut of their ears and lips, it's a sickness and humanity is a losing battle

ella wrote:

Jason wrote:I think I heard somewhere that labs have the highest percentage attacks.. True?

labs and golden retrievers are normally the top biters

I thought it was the Dachshund , or certainly used to be