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Post by Oswald Thu Jan 10 2013, 05:55

2nd lot of jabs and then a week till we can get out and about!! I am dying to get him out exploring!! hurry up! hurry up! hurry up!
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 05:59

You know you should wait until 3rd jabs Big Grin Sorry to be a downer but in Aus the jabs are different to the UK.. They are not fully protected until a week after the 3rd needles..

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Post by Oswald Thu Jan 10 2013, 06:36

nooooooooooooooooooooooo seriously? what Sad he'll be past "socialisation" period by then :s
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Post by Oswald Thu Jan 10 2013, 06:38

Talk about confusing the first vet (who did his initial jab before we got him) said he was not due for his second till 12 weeks. The vet I rang said 4 weeks after his first which is now...ARGH!!!
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 06:48

Sad I'm sorry.. Believe me I know your pain.. If you look back on my old posts you will see how much I whined about it.. But unfortunately 16weeks is the earliest a pup is protected here.. We vaccinate against different things that they don't have in UK and vice versa.. 8-10weeks is first shot 12-14wks 2nd then 16-18wks is the 3rd.. As hard as it is it is better than feeling the pain if they do contract anything..

As for socialisation, Steff was finally let free at 18wks old and we go to the off lead park almost daily and she is very well socialised Big Grin No problems what so ever.. So don't worry about that. Just take him out in your arms as often as possible to get used to everything, and remember if you KNOW another dog is fully vaccinated he can have play dates with them Big Grin As long as you are SURE they are up to date on their shots..

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 08:11

We're similar to Aus with our jabs, but we are allowed to start attending puppy classes after the 2nd jab. Vinny had his 2nd jab a month ago but school has been closed for the holidays, so we arranged plenty of play dates for him with "safe" mates in "safe" areas. They're all older than him so it will be interesting to see how he reacts to puppies in class on Saturday!

I agree, take him out in your arms often - we took Vinny with on Roxy's walks, but carried him; took him for car rides; to the store etc. and have made sure he has been touched by everyone from little kids to oldies Smile

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Post by Oswald Thu Jan 10 2013, 08:27

Don't appogise Kylie! Thank you xx
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 09:53

When you go to the Vet ask them bout puppy schools or socials.. They usually have get togethers with pups that are of a similar age and not yet fully immunised but hd their 1st jabs Big Grin Good luck it is a hard few weeks but well worth the wait..

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 10:08

He will still have plenty of time to socialize. We got Suki when she was about 18 weeks and she is very good with other dogs. Just takes an effort to let them play with other dogs everyday and know what to look for in body language

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Post by janey Thu Jan 10 2013, 10:14



Defiantly not past socialization! Moo was 10 months when I got her Smile
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Post by Kathy Thu Jan 10 2013, 10:35

You'll be fine, bet you are chomping at the bit to get out and about Laughing
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 15:49

I wouldn't worry about that...it'll be a brand new world for him to explore, he'll be VERY interested in meeting people and dogs, trust me Laughing

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Post by Oswald Thu Jan 10 2013, 20:32

Thanks ladies! Everything I read makes it sound like a pup not socialised by 16 weeks is a lost cause :/ When they use language like "small window of opportunity" as a first time dog owner it is hard not to worry
glad to have some experienced people to talk to about it with Big Grin
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 10 2013, 20:37

Oswald wrote:Thanks ladies! Everything I read makes it sound like a pup not socialised by 16 weeks is a lost cause :/ When they use language like "small window of opportunity" as a first time dog owner it is hard not to worry
glad to have some experienced people to talk to about it with Big Grin

That really annoys me. Yes, there's a 'window' when it's more conducive to socialise your pup, but that's not the only time! you can socialise any age of dog & have tremendous success as long as it's done properly. The main thing is to make sure you take him out for short periods, held securely in your arms, to let him know that there are loads of scary things out there that he needn't be worried about cause you're there!

Then, when he's had his jabs, you can introduce him to other dogs over the park etc.

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Post by Oswald Fri Jan 11 2013, 00:23

We are back! He did so well! Clean bill of health and had the vet in love with him by the end Big Grin she said he is right to go out in 2 weeks Big Grin

Oh and yes was advised to desex him at 6 months not listening
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11 2013, 00:37

Good news and hope the two weeks goes by quickly for you

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11 2013, 00:49

Oswald wrote:We are back! He did so well! Clean bill of health and had the vet in love with him by the end Big Grin she said he is right to go out in 2 weeks Big Grin

Oh and yes was advised to desex him at 6 months not listening

If the 2nd jabs ave been administered then your dog can go out immediately.

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11 2013, 00:50

I'm sorry but if your vet told you that you need a new vet.. These are the protocols set out by officials, as you can see it is a legit govt. doc..

http://www.apvma.gov.au/use_safely/vaccination.php

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Because the decline in the level of MDA varies between animals, three initial vaccinations are generally recommended, timed to ensure that the animal is fully protected.


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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11 2013, 00:51

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Oswald wrote:We are back! He did so well! Clean bill of health and had the vet in love with him by the end Big Grin she said he is right to go out in 2 weeks Big Grin

Oh and yes was advised to desex him at 6 months not listening

If the 2nd jabs ave been administered then your dog can go out immediately.


Not in Australia!!!!

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11 2013, 00:58

Australian Veterinary Foundation.. If you don't believe me ask them there is a contact us section.

http://www.ava.com.au/policy/67-vaccination-dogs-and-cats

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11 2013, 01:11

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Hayley wrote:
Oswald wrote:We are back! He did so well! Clean bill of health and had the vet in love with him by the end Big Grin she said he is right to go out in 2 weeks Big Grin

Oh and yes was advised to desex him at 6 months not listening

If the 2nd jabs ave been administered then your dog can go out immediately.


Not in Australia!!!!

Ah okay. I was not aware of that. Glad you are here to let others know Smile

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Post by HoneyBear Fri Jan 11 2013, 06:26

As I am new to all of this I know your frustration! Honey is still young and we are also waiting for her to get her third injection so we can take her out. We enrolled in puppy preschool which is great for socialisation and is in a safe, sanitized and controlled environment. I strongly encourage you to look into it!

I have spoken to a few vets in my area and asked if other dogs that are fully vaccinated can come over to our home to play and the answer from all three was no Sad As apparently all though the other dogs are immunized they could still be carriers of parvo or have picked up germs from their walks etc that can be passed on from them to your pup and sadly pups do not have the full immunity against such viruses. I was told to not do it as its just not worth it. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but this is the info I have been given and have taken it on board am awaiting the time for my little lady to get out and about! Smile
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Post by Oswald Fri Jan 11 2013, 08:19

Kylie wrote:I'm sorry but if your vet told you that you need a new vet.. These are the protocols set out by officials, as you can see it is a legit govt. doc..

http://www.apvma.gov.au/use_safely/vaccination.php

Take note of this..

Because the decline in the level of MDA varies between animals, three initial vaccinations are generally recommended, timed to ensure that the animal is fully protected.


The only other vet in our area only does 2 vaccinations one at 6-8 weeks and another at 12 weeks. He was the one that did his initial jabs. I went with this new vet to get the 3 vaccinations. We must have dud vets around here at wits end
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