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Post by Roca Fri Oct 05 2012, 10:10

My puppy is 10 weeks old now and ive got her for 3 weeks. Shes acting like a deaf dog Sad

Ive started to training her about 2 weeks ago, when i have a treat she can understand sit, leave and down, but im not sure if because she see me and my hand Sad When she play with my missus and I call her she just ignore me even when ive got a treat.

Is anybody had this problem with a dog? Maybe shes just ignoring me because shes young - thats my hope:(
Im going to vet in 2 weeks time and I will try find out whats going on.

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Post by kaztaz Fri Oct 05 2012, 10:31

have you tryed standing behind her and making a load noise with out any movement from you this thread might be worth a read
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t6798-could-blake-be-deaf?highlight=deaf
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 10:35

You can ask the vet to check her out, but all he'll be able to do are the usual 'noise' tests which aren't conclusive.

If you want to know the full extent of her hearing you will need to get her BAER tested. It's a harmless, painless way to test the amount of hearing in each ear, individually, but most vets will not have the equipment necessary. The nearest to you would probably be Newmarket.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 10:36

kaztaz wrote:have you tryed standing behind her and making a load noise with out any movement from you this thread might be worth a read
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t6798-could-blake-be-deaf?highlight=deaf

This doesn't always work, the dog can pick up on vibration, shadows etc & won't tell you if the deafness (if there is any) is partial or profound, neither will it tell you how much hearing there is in each ear.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 11:08

Another way is to close her into a room, set up a camera and make a loud noise like with a foghorn thing. If she reacts she can hear a little something anyways. But she is pure white so unfortunately there is a great possibility she could be.

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Post by kaztaz Fri Oct 05 2012, 11:19

Caryll wrote:
kaztaz wrote:have you tryed standing behind her and making a load noise with out any movement from you this thread might be worth a read
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t6798-could-blake-be-deaf?highlight=deaf

This doesn't always work, the dog can pick up on vibration, shadows etc & won't tell you if the deafness (if there is any) is partial or profound, neither will it tell you how much hearing there is in each ear.
yeah i agree it wont say for defo but a few tests round the like having her in a room with someone and banging a sauce pan in others room troy go's mad at that sound Laughing just thought a few tests at home might be worth a try Big Grin
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 11:36

Yes, it might be worth a try, but it won't be a definitive answer. White dogs, especially, often have at least a degree of deafness & if you want to know exactly what the hearing is like in each ear, the only way is a baer test. Sad

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Post by Roca Fri Oct 05 2012, 12:10

kaztaz wrote:have you tryed standing behind her and making a load noise with out any movement from you this thread might be worth a read
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t6798-could-blake-be-deaf?highlight=deaf

Thanks for posting this thread. My puppy doesnt really hear anything when Im standing and klaping my hands etc.
I just played some video on youtube hearing test and online whistle (http://dogwhistlesound.com/online-dog-whistle/) and unfortunetly my dog couldnt hear any of these Crying or Very sad
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 12:12

Even if your pup is deaf, it isn't the end of the world. Deaf dogs can learn signs (as you've already discovered), and can live very happy lives!

You might want to invest in a vibrating collar if it's confirmed that she is deaf.

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Post by Roca Fri Oct 05 2012, 12:45

Caryll wrote:Even if your pup is deaf, it isn't the end of the world. Deaf dogs can learn signs (as you've already discovered), and can live very happy lives!

You might want to invest in a vibrating collar if it's confirmed that she is deaf.

I know it isnt the end of the world, but at the moment just feel like it. I just need to get use to. I love my dog and shes the sweetest dog I ever seen, Ill do my best to make her happy!
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 12:46

I'm sure you will! She's such a pretty girl! Love Struck

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Post by asa-james Fri Oct 05 2012, 14:38

Roca wrote:
kaztaz wrote:have you tryed standing behind her and making a load noise with out any movement from you this thread might be worth a read
https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t6798-could-blake-be-deaf?highlight=deaf

Thanks for posting this thread. My puppy doesnt really hear anything when Im standing and klaping my hands etc.
I just played some video on youtube hearing test and online whistle (http://dogwhistlesound.com/online-dog-whistle/) and unfortunetly my dog couldnt hear any of these Crying or Very sad

ive just tried these on Lola (and me) and she didnt react to any of them, so dont despair yet.

and as said, you can teach hand signals, i use a combination of both with Lola
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 17:34

If you think she is deaf, the test Caryll recommended would be a good way to confirm it. Sooner you know, the better you can come to terms with it and learn more about how to deal with it. If she is, don't worry though; dogs have great hearing, but they don't really rely on it as much as their other senses (at least, in my opinion). You can use hand signals to train her, she'll be fine Smile like a dog with three legs, you'd think they're at a disadvantage but they never act like it.

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Post by Roca Fri Oct 05 2012, 18:24

I found a BAER test in Birmingham for 48 pounds so i will give a go., but im gonna go to vet first, see what he would say.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 05 2012, 20:49

Roca wrote:I found a BAER test in Birmingham for 48 pounds so i will give a go., but im gonna go to vet first, see what he would say.

That seems very expensive. It's normally only about £20 + vat. Are you sure they're bone fide?

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Post by Staffiesrus Sat Oct 06 2012, 09:43

Roca wrote:I found a BAER test in Birmingham for 48 pounds so i will give a go., but im gonna go to vet first, see what he would say.

All the best!!

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Post by Roca Sat Oct 06 2012, 10:56

Caryll wrote:
Roca wrote:I found a BAER test in Birmingham for 48 pounds so i will give a go., but im gonna go to vet first, see what he would say.

That seems very expensive. It's normally only about £20 + vat. Are you sure they're bone fide?

http://www.vethearingservice.co.uk/hearing-testing-clinics.html
that the only one I found close to me, Im trying to google for any closer clinics but I cant find any...
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Caryll wrote:
Roca wrote:I found a BAER test in Birmingham for 48 pounds so i will give a go., but im gonna go to vet first, see what he would say.

That seems very expensive. It's normally only about £20 + vat. Are you sure they're bone fide?

Please beware. I've googled & can't find any baer testing facilities in Birmingham, and the amount sounds far too high. Generally speaking it should only cost about £20 +vat. I've also had a word with an EBT breeder (White EBTs are known for deafness) and she didn't know of anywhere in Birmingham & agrees that the price is steep.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 06 2012, 11:13

Here are a list of ones recommended by the EBT breeder I know. The one in bold is Dr Judith Skerritt & I think she does the occasional clinic in other areas & someone mentioned that they thought one might be in Coventry. It'd be worth phoning & asking...

Animal Health Trust, Newmarket – Contact Mrs J. Freeman, Tel. 01638 552700

Animal Medical Centre, Manchester – Contact Mr P. Boydell,Tel. 01618 813329

Chestergates Referral Hospital, Chester – Contact Dr. Judith Skerritt. Tel. 01244 853823

Hearing Assessment Clinic, Hampshire (Mobile) – Contact Mrs Cox Tel. 01962 713155

Vale Vets, Gloucester – Contact Miss S Fitzmaurice, Tel. 01453 542092

Small Animals Clinic, Midlothian – Contact Prof. I. Mayhew, Tel. 01316 501000

Church Farm Veterinary Clinic, Liverpool – Contact Mr G. Skerritt, Tel. 01513 271885

Wey Referals, Surrey – Miss S. Fitzmaurice, Tel. 01483 729194


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Post by Roca Sat Oct 06 2012, 13:02

Caryll wrote:Here are a list of ones recommended by the EBT breeder I know. The one in bold is Dr Judith Skerritt & I think she does the occasional clinic in other areas & someone mentioned that they thought one might be in Coventry. It'd be worth phoning & asking...

Animal Health Trust, Newmarket – Contact Mrs J. Freeman, Tel. 01638 552700

Animal Medical Centre, Manchester – Contact Mr P. Boydell,Tel. 01618 813329

Chestergates Referral Hospital, Chester – Contact Dr. Judith Skerritt. Tel. 01244 853823

Hearing Assessment Clinic, Hampshire (Mobile) – Contact Mrs Cox Tel. 01962 713155

Vale Vets, Gloucester – Contact Miss S Fitzmaurice, Tel. 01453 542092

Small Animals Clinic, Midlothian – Contact Prof. I. Mayhew, Tel. 01316 501000

Church Farm Veterinary Clinic, Liverpool – Contact Mr G. Skerritt, Tel. 01513 271885

Wey Referals, Surrey – Miss S. Fitzmaurice, Tel. 01483 729194


Thanks Caryll for info, just sent email to Chestergates Hospital.

I went today to my vet and ask in reception where can I do baer test. They said to me I need to book appointment to check it first. After I booked appointment I asked for a price and they said £25 for consultation (for a first injection, 1 wormed tablet I paid about £19) !!! What they gonna say to me, you need to do baer test? I know my puppy is deaf... not very helpfull, I think I need to change my vet... Sad
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 06 2012, 13:09

It isn't really the vet's fault. They would prefer to be in at the start of any health problems & would then (I suppose) refer you to a specialist.

The thing is, you can go straight to baer testing without a vet's referral (whereas a lot of problems do need a vet's referral), and a lot of them haven't even heard of it!

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Post by marley'smummy Sun Oct 07 2012, 16:50

Had a friend with an american bull dog who was completly deaf (and yes he was pure white to!) and he taught him sign language its fab to watch and they have such a great bond, so dont despair to much!
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Post by marley'smummy Sun Oct 07 2012, 16:54

Had a friend with an american bull dog who was completly deaf (and yes he was pure white to!) and he taught him sign language its fab to watch and they have such a great bond, so dont despair to much!
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Post by Roca Sun Oct 07 2012, 18:00

marley'smummy wrote:Had a friend with an american bull dog who was completly deaf (and yes he was pure white to!) and he taught him sign language its fab to watch and they have such a great bond, so dont despair to much!

Im ok now and she got load of love from me, it was just sad to find out she wont hear me. Shes really playfull dog and very smart.
Sign training going very well - she knows how to sit, stay, leave, paw, high five, down, crawl, up and how to walk next to me close to my leg - Im really proud of her, all this after only like 1 week of training! (and this is my first dog I ever had) applause

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Roca wrote: it was just sad to find out she wont hear me.

The thing is, what she's never had she won't miss! She doesn't know that others can hear so she won't be sad about it! Love Struck

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Post by Roca Sun Oct 07 2012, 21:44

Caryll wrote:
Roca wrote: it was just sad to find out she wont hear me.

The thing is, what she's never had she won't miss! She doesn't know that others can hear so she won't be sad about it! Love Struck

I know it, its such a human thing Smile
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