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Post by Andy Sat Sep 15 2012, 20:57

I need to know how to identify which cable is the mains supply to the dining room ceiling light, and which is the one from the switch ... they both look the same with a live, neutral, and earth wire i dont know
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Post by Steve Sat Sep 15 2012, 21:00

you can get a tester from B&Q

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Post by Andy Sat Sep 15 2012, 21:42

I've got a multimeter, but not sure what to set it on, or what I'm lookin for ... I use it on my cars/motorbikes so its always set to 12v DC ???
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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 01:52

Normally the ring main is a bigger wire than the lighting ring

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 01:54

Good avatar, Mike.

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 01:58

Thanks
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Post by Andy Sun Sep 16 2012, 10:02

BlueStaffBlue wrote:Normally the ring main is a bigger wire than the lighting ring

Yeah I know Blue, but these mofo's are both the same size, and look identical ... doh
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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 10:05

If you get electrocuted then you'll know you got the wrong one!

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 10:17

Oh miss read thought you said 1 to light 1 to sockets. Yeah one to light and to light switch will be the same size. You might just have to follow the cable to see where it goes. Have you had any luck?

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Post by Andy Sun Sep 16 2012, 10:49

Caryll wrote:If you get electrocuted then you'll know you got the wrong one!

Tongues .. thats what I'm afraid of nail biting

Blue - no luck yet, but I only bought the new light fitting yesterday and tried fitting it last night, which is when I found not knowing how to differenciate between the wires could possibly cause an issue !! hypnotised I dont want to s

I'm sure there must be a way of testing the wire's with a multimeter, to tell which one is the main supply, therefore making the other the switch wire thinking
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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 10:52

There will be mate. If I run into a sparky I'll ask him. There are DIY forums. I go on every now and again and help people out with joinery

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Post by Andy Sun Sep 16 2012, 11:00

Yeah I think I'll check them out if I cant get anywhere at work tomorrow .. cheers mate Wink

I'm just about to make my daughter a "rustic" dressing table for her bedroom and stain it "Teak" ... not enough hours in the day at the mo whew!
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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 11:03

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 16 2012, 12:57

Can I help you out mate ?? don't know how much you know already.

1) what you should have is a live feed to the ceiling rose on one cable, then the other cable goes from the live down to the switch and back.

2) if you can identify the reds and blacks from each separate cable the easiest way is as follows.
Turn off all of the power (most important step or bye bye Andy Smile )
Put the meter onto resistance (symbol: Ω). As a test to make sure you are correct touch the 2 probes together and you will have a low reading 0.1, 0.2 etc
On each of the 2 cables, whilst someone helps you touch onto the red and black wires with the 2 probes and flick the switch at the same time, you should see the reading on the meter go high and low every time you flick the switch.
So this is the switch cable , and hence the other must be the live , if there is only 2 .
Let me know how you get on and if no luck I can talk you through checking it live but prefer not to as this is the safest way

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Post by Andy Sun Sep 16 2012, 18:45

Thats great cheers Davey boy dancing ... I ent tried it yet cus I've been doing acurry this arvo along with .. ahum .. a few beers whistling .. but I'll try what you said and let ya know mate thumbs up
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 13:48

Andy wrote:Thats great cheers Davey boy dancing ... I ent tried it yet cus I've been doing acurry this arvo along with .. ahum .. a few beers whistling .. but I'll try what you said and let ya know mate thumbs up

Best leave the mixing Beer and electricity to the experts like me mate Big Grin

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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 14:07

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Andy wrote:Thats great cheers Davey boy dancing ... I ent tried it yet cus I've been doing acurry this arvo along with .. ahum .. a few beers whistling .. but I'll try what you said and let ya know mate thumbs up

Best leave the mixing Beer and electricity to the experts like me mate Big Grin

Dave you can mix beer and electricity Cool you are deff an expert rolling on the floor
no wait thats not Cool its shocking literally lol

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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 14:26

Done so many jobs on machines with a hangover from hell Cool

And really rotten joke BTW Laughing

I did a post to you ages ago but you not answered, where were you a * metal worker at , anyone I know ?? Just curious don't mention my company name though as I'm told they are watching everywhere with their bots Sad

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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 14:58

just a small place in washington but we used cnc cutters/ punches/suppied by your place.
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 15:30

can't think of anywhere in Washington that long ago Sad been with them for 13 years this year and I only used to work on the lasers, been a few big buys recently up there though spending a lot so it shows that things are definitely on the up for the NE thumbs up

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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 18:15

Andy not been back on.....you killed him Dave with your advice Surprised

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Post by Guest Mon Sep 17 2012, 19:43

ANDY !!!!!!!!!!!!! speak to me mate nail biting

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Post by Andy Mon Sep 17 2012, 19:48

Laughing ... ok, my multimeter is goosed Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes .. so borrowed one from a mate Big Grin

I've determined which one is the mains feed (just touched it wiv me tongue innit hypnotised ), so now I gotta test the other with the beep setting while someone opperates the switch yeah ?
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Post by Andy Tue Sep 18 2012, 20:08

"let there be light" ... Big Grin ... all sorted, cheers for the help fella's Wink
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 18 2012, 20:16

Andy wrote: Laughing ... ok, my multimeter is goosed Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes .. so borrowed one from a mate Big Grin

I've determined which one is the mains feed (just touched it wiv me tongue innit hypnotised ), so now I gotta test the other with the beep setting while someone opperates the switch yeah ?

Pleased you got sorted mate , sorry I missed the post yesterdaY

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Post by Andy Tue Sep 18 2012, 21:01

No worries me old china Wink
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