Cheeky son of a female dog

I do all i can to secure my dogs when i am not around like any responsible owner would.
With a fence of 8 feet surrounding my allotments I can leave my terrors down there including blondy while I go refill the water bowl or anything like that from my parents homes.
This is the fifth time this has happened now this kid down the street from my parents keeps nicking Cassie, she got her collar and everything on and he knows it is my dog well today I go and get water come back Blondy and Cassie have gone, he sticks his hand through the trees *not big enough for adult hand* and he lets them out Taz never listens to him. Anyway he took the two of them down to his home.
I go to the lane and I call them and he always holds onto the collars so they can’t come to me. So I have to go down there he runs inside I go through their back and knock their door. Well today his very unpleasant father answered, giving me a loud of mouth saying I let my dogs stray. So when I told him what his kid is doing he didn’t even care so I give him my unpleasantness I told him if he does not stop his kid from stealing my dogs off my own god * property he is going to hear off the police so he handed me my dogs and off I went I know this is not going to be the end of it because I have told the mother several times as well. So I’m going to put a mouse trap in the tree gap and see if his thiefing little son will do it again he does it to this other staff female but she has been spayed. I know he is only a kid about 12 years old but he knows what he is doing he has stolen loads of things out of allotments mine including and he lets the chickens out into the lane. I also know of several other kids in the area who do the dirty work for their parents and I’m getting sick of it. Beside booby trapping the tree gap I don’t know how else to do it.
Also to make things worse Cassie’s in season and he has an un-neutered staff male and a Labrador male.
I'm telling you I'f Cassie has been caught i'll be sending him the bill. how stupid can they be seriousely. they refuse to stop their kid and one day he is going to try and take home the wrong dog.

Trouble is, if you tell the police, they'll just say that the dogs weren't secure. I mean you and I both know what the little horror's doing, but proving it's a different matter.

The only other thing you can do is tie the dogs up, away from the fence when you leave them. Or leave them at home.

Doesnt sound good Miss R.
Well I for one would not be leaving Cassie anywhere on heat... regardless of where
Cant you put a chain and lock on the gate that the kids is letting her out from?.
he wount be able to let her out if it is padlocked?.
He is a right royal pain the in butt that kid... his parents should be doing more to keep him under control.. if that were one of my kids I would set the trap myself.. little Turd

I'll have to set up a recorder then, I could never teather a dog and to leave them at home is out of the question they have a 2-3 hour run down my allotments each day especially now i can't take them for a run, I just can't understand how someone could let their kid do that.
Cassie is fine being left down there no dog can get in or out unless their let in or out.
There is a lock and chain on the main gate but the part he goes to is the old gate it has a code lock on it and he presses the reset button on it all the time and last time before this time he reset it as well so i had to get a new.

Can you hide behind the tree with a massive water pistol? Seriously though, kids of that age can be massively annoying. I had a lot of bother with one until I ended up having to shout at his mother. It is not pleasant to be reduced to shouting at someone because they are basically as bad or worse than the offspring they have dragged up.

I think if I were you, I would put a lock on the allotment gate. That's all you can do when there are scum around.

MissRogue wrote: I just can't understand how someone could let their kid do that.

Some parents just couldn't give a t**s what their kids get up to. Then they moan cause their precious little spawn is going to a Young Offenders Institute!

This kid sticks his hands through any gate to try and let dogs out one day he is going to do it to the wrong dog and then what the parents will complain and wonder why their son comes back a few fingers less.

Mel Skora wrote:Well I for one would not be leaving Cassie anywhere on heat... regardless of where

I agree with that - asking for problems!

If the gate is padlocked and you have the key he cant let them out.. simple as that...i agree the dogs should not have to be left at home but i wuold not be risking another preg on Cassie.. until you get this sorted out you need to think of her

MissRogue wrote: I could never teather a dog

How long do you leave them alone, then? Surely it can't be that long. And if it saves your dogs from being taken all the time, then you should seriously consider it.

My mums back yard is only four houses away he must wait around the blimming corner i refill the water bottle and go back. not even five minutes, I can't leave cassie at home she'll go crazy without Taz and i can't leave Taz cause he will go crazy without his runs and plays. If i take Cassie with me to my mums yard i'll have to blondy and if i take blondy Taz will want to come and handling them and 2 5 litre bottle is out of the question, im not that strong lol.

ohh car battery >

MissRogue wrote:My mums back yard is only four houses away he must wait around the blimming corner i refill the water bottle and go back. not even five minutes, I can't leave cassie at home she'll go crazy without Taz and i can't leave Taz cause he will go crazy without his runs and plays. If i take Cassie with me to my mums yard i'll have to blondy and if i take blondy Taz will want to come and handling them and 2 5 litre bottle is out of the question, im not that strong lol.

Then you must tie them up for their own safety. If it's only for 5 minutes then you'll not be doing them any harm.

The important thing is the safety of your dogs.

Caryll wrote:

MissRogue wrote:My mums back yard is only four houses away he must wait around the blimming corner i refill the water bottle and go back. not even five minutes, I can't leave cassie at home she'll go crazy without Taz and i can't leave Taz cause he will go crazy without his runs and plays. If i take Cassie with me to my mums yard i'll have to blondy and if i take blondy Taz will want to come and handling them and 2 5 litre bottle is out of the question, im not that strong lol.

Then you must tie them up for their own safety. If it's only for 5 minutes then you'll not be doing them any harm.

The important thing is the safety of your dogs.

yeah i'll have to put up some holding poles and i just really hope the kid doesn't go into the allotments cause Taz is not at all nice teathered when his girls are around. he's in charge when i'm not there.

cant u just take them with u when u get water? Or just take water with u? To be honest miss r u shouldnt be leaving your dogs alone anyway, if anything happens to them regardless of the little sh** down the road it would still be your fault. As has already been said espeacially when u have a in season bitch, thats quite iresponsible. Hope u work something out though x

I no its easy to say but id never leave my 2 anywere on there own for a second but I no its not always easy so get a new gate to keep the little sod out

blaze666 wrote:cant u just take them with u when u get water? Or just take water with u? To be honest miss r u shouldnt be leaving your dogs alone anyway, if anything happens to them regardless of the little sh** down the road it would still be your fault. As has already been said espeacially when u have a in season bitch, thats quite iresponsible. Hope u work something out though x

Especially with a bitch in season, you shouldn't be leaving a dog thats in heat alone for even a second or you'll end up with more puppies you don't want or need.

Blaze you never leave your dogs? so because i do i'm irresponsible, I do not even leave Cassie long enough to catch and my allotments is secure if it was not for that kid. How can i end up with puppies i don't need nor want when i leave her in a secure place where no un neutered males can get her, UNLESS she is let her, its not my fault she is let out, two years it took that allotments to be completely finished and secure for my dogs and it is secure better than peoples gardens anyways, the gate does not need replacing the kid does. I should be able to leave my dogs securely where ever i want and not have to worry about people stealing them

Next time he does it, report him for theft! I would! That might teach the parents to do something!!

Hayley109 wrote:Next time he does it, report him for theft! I would! That might teach the parents to do something!!

I'll have to record him doing it first, i'v told the parents ill call the police next time but it didn't work with the mother maybe it will now i'v told the father so ill just wait and see.

MissRogue wrote:Blaze you never leave your dogs? so because i do i'm irresponsible, I do not even leave Cassie long enough to catch and my allotments is secure if it was not for that kid. How can i end up with puppies i don't need nor want when i leave her in a secure place where no un neutered males can get her, UNLESS she is let her, its not my fault she is let out, two years it took that allotments to be completely finished and secure for my dogs and it is secure better than peoples gardens anyways, the gate does not need replacing the kid does. I should be able to leave my dogs securely where ever i want and not have to worry about people stealing them

No i dont ever leave my dogs unsupervised outside. You say u dont leave cassie long enough to catch but u do leave them long enough to be stolen and taken to a premisis with entire males. If this has already happened a few times already then why do u still leave them thier by themelves?! Obviously this child should not be stealing dogs but yes i do think you are being irresponsible by 1. leaving your dogs outside unsupervised 2. leaving your in season bitch outside unsupervised 3. Still leaving your dogs outside unsupervised even after they have been taken by a child from your "secure" premisis numerous times before. Just my opinion......x

blaze666 wrote:

MissRogue wrote:Blaze you never leave your dogs? so because i do i'm irresponsible, I do not even leave Cassie long enough to catch and my allotments is secure if it was not for that kid. How can i end up with puppies i don't need nor want when i leave her in a secure place where no un neutered males can get her, UNLESS she is let her, its not my fault she is let out, two years it took that allotments to be completely finished and secure for my dogs and it is secure better than peoples gardens anyways, the gate does not need replacing the kid does. I should be able to leave my dogs securely where ever i want and not have to worry about people stealing them

No i dont ever leave my dogs unsupervised outside. You say u dont leave cassie long enough to catch but u do leave them long enough to be stolen and taken to a premisis with entire males. If this has already happened a few times already then why do u still leave them thier by themelves?! Obviously this child should not be stealing dogs but yes i do think you are being irresponsible by 1. leaving your dogs outside unsupervised 2. leaving your in season bitch outside unsupervised 3. Still leaving your dogs outside unsupervised even after they have been taken by a child from your "secure" premisis numerous times before. Just my opinion......x

I leave my dogs out my mums kitchen when i go into living room, so im irresponsible, I just left my dogs sitting in the kitchen when i just answered my door so i'm irresponsible. And the allotments is secure 100% of the time except when that kid isn't in school
I always change the combination lock everytime he does it but he must know how to reset them or something as there is no other way, i can't use an actual padlock because it's my mums allotments as well and she will not have a key. Yes Cassie is in season but she is not at the fertile time yet and unlike last she was in season cassie will be tied to my hip while out and about. In season or not i shouldn't have to worry about it.

MissRogue wrote:

blaze666 wrote:

MissRogue wrote:Blaze you never leave your dogs? so because i do i'm irresponsible, I do not even leave Cassie long enough to catch and my allotments is secure if it was not for that kid. How can i end up with puppies i don't need nor want when i leave her in a secure place where no un neutered males can get her, UNLESS she is let her, its not my fault she is let out, two years it took that allotments to be completely finished and secure for my dogs and it is secure better than peoples gardens anyways, the gate does not need replacing the kid does. I should be able to leave my dogs securely where ever i want and not have to worry about people stealing them

No i dont ever leave my dogs unsupervised outside. You say u dont leave cassie long enough to catch but u do leave them long enough to be stolen and taken to a premisis with entire males. If this has already happened a few times already then why do u still leave them thier by themelves?! Obviously this child should not be stealing dogs but yes i do think you are being irresponsible by 1. leaving your dogs outside unsupervised 2. leaving your in season bitch outside unsupervised 3. Still leaving your dogs outside unsupervised even after they have been taken by a child from your "secure" premisis numerous times before. Just my opinion......x

I leave my dogs out my mums kitchen when i go into living room, so im irresponsible, I just left my dogs sitting in the kitchen when i just answered my door so i'm irresponsible. And the allotments is secure 100% of the time except when that kid isn't in school
I always change the combination lock everytime he does it but he must know how to reset them or something as there is no other way, i can't use an actual padlock because it's my mums allotments as well and she will not have a key. Yes Cassie is in season but she is not at the fertile time yet and unlike last she was in season cassie will be tied to my hip while out and about. In season or not i shouldn't have to worry about it.

Miss rogue...if u re read my last post said i never leave my dogs unsupervised OUTSIDE. Whatever u do to prevent your dogs from being taken obviously isnt working as if a 12 year old can get in to your allotments in the short time it takes u to get water from your mums house then its obviously not as secure as u think it is! Oh and i have a padlock on my back gate and it has 3 keys. As i said before good luck.....

You know, MissRogue, Carly has a very valid point. Your bitch is in season (no matter that she isn't at the 'fertile' stage yet) and you are still leaving her unattended where you know she can be, and has been, got at.

Whether you like it or not, that is irresponsible. Yes, I would lock up the little turd that keeps taking her, and her parents as well, but that doesn't solve the problem, which is she shouldn't have been left in that position in the first place.

MissRogue wrote:Blaze you never leave your dogs? so because i do i'm irresponsible, I do not even leave Cassie long enough to catch and my allotments is secure if it was not for that kid. How can i end up with puppies i don't need nor want when i leave her in a secure place where no un neutered males can get her, UNLESS she is let her, its not my fault she is let out, two years it took that allotments to be completely finished and secure for my dogs and it is secure better than peoples gardens anyways, the gate does not need replacing the kid does. I should be able to leave my dogs securely where ever i want and not have to worry about people stealing them

Thats completely naiive, clearly the dogs can get out, albeit when the child opens the gate. It doesn't mean that the dog isn't going to get pregnant, this makes it all the more likely (as you said this little boy has two male unneutered dogs). Of course you could quite simply put a lock on the gate???

How many solutions do you want? You've asked people for suggestions and you've had;
*tie up dogs
*dont leave dogs
* put a damn lock on the gate.
*report child (though im 99.9% sure the police wouldnt even turn up)

You are being irrisponsible by not compromising, kids are kids and chances are you can shout at him till your blue in the face but hes still going to let the dogs out. It is YOUR job to make sure that the dogs can't get out. If these dogs were mine I would be terrified they might get run over, attacked, pregnant. It just doesn't seem like your taking all the steps you could to keep your dogs safe.

yes you should be able to leave your dogs in the allottments if they are 100 percent secure but obviously they are not cus the kid can get in and let them out.

so two choices put a big chub lock on or leave at home thats all you can do.
the police wont do nothing cus if the kid can get hold of the dogs in the first place they will just say they werent secured,,,,worst still if they ever bite him you will be done for it ad likeley the dogs put t sleep........
its obviouse you care about your dogs so best to remove them from the situation by leaving them at home.
your in a loose loose situation unfortunateley but the dogs gotta come first and leaving them at home is hard but for there own good.
i personaly think its disgracefull you should have to cus of some little scrote but the law will always be on his side cus of his age......
very orrying about the unneutered dog though id defo be leaving her at home or with a sitter

lolalollypop wrote:yes you should be able to leave your dogs in the allottments if they are 100 percent secure but obviously they are not cus the kid can get in and let them out.

so two choices put a big chub lock on or leave at home thats all you can do.
the police wont do nothing cus if the kid can get hold of the dogs in the first place they will just say they werent secured,,,,worst still if they ever bite him you will be done for it ad likeley the dogs put t sleep........
its obviouse you care about your dogs so best to remove them from the situation by leaving them at home.
your in a loose loose situation unfortunateley but the dogs gotta come first and leaving them at home is hard but for there own good.
i personaly think its disgracefull you should have to cus of some little scrote but the law will always be on his side cus of his age......
very orrying about the unneutered dog though id defo be leaving her at home or with a sitter

Yes what he said.... Mine was supposed to come out like that, all calm and controlled!!

lol i thought you was being calm

Gotta butt in here and completely agree with what everyone has said. Leaving any dog outside unsupervised is completely irresponsible, leaving a bitch on heat outside unsupervised is inexcusable especially cos they've been stolen a few times already, why take the risk? What if someone else got into your 'secure' allotment and stole them and took them somewhere you couldnt find them? Drove off with them perhaps? I would Never leave Charlie unattended but if I did, and he was stolen and I was lucky enough to know where he was and get him back, I'd never be silly enough to leave him unattended again.

Miss R
Someone with you "experience " in the dog world would know that sprem..... can live for quiet some time.... soooooo fertile or not you are just being silly for leaving cassie... sorry but you are.
I have to ask the dumbest question... but if you know they are being let out , as it has happened before, and you know there are intact males where they are taking cassie..... are you infact wanting cassie to have another litter.... then you can blame someone else...
sorry but I cant see a responsible dog owner even letting a bitch in season out of their own house unless they are asking for trouble.

some good reading here..

id just like to say.

iv never left my 2 on the own when iv been out with them...even to goto the shop and have them tyed up out side it...

cos if any thing happind id be hart broaking cos and the end of the day the dog is yours responsabilty no one els,s.......

and when lelo had her sessons stich got sent to my sis hows to live for week and then come home at weekends cos its the only time i was here full time..
and now she has been spyed,it one thing i dont have to worry about..

miss r it seems to me that you need to work some thing better out with the dogs as you say its happind a few times.... it only take me the one time to learn,so that if you are lucky and you get a second chance you dont blow it...

do hope it works out................

I wouldnt even leave my dog in the car on his own to go in the shop or anything i dont even leave him in the garden unattended as you dont know what idiots are about and theres alot of people around who are stealing staffies at the moment id be devasted if kaiser got taken so i take ever precaution possible to make sure it cant happen. If kaiser was taken once from the garden by some kid or anybody he wouldnt be in it again on his own for it to happen again

Ah blissful silence....