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Post by Guest Thu Mar 22 2012, 23:36

Im a member of another site and just found this. Didnt mean to paste the whole lot. Theres a clip of the programme too, should i post it
Roger Mugford, a well know dog behavourist and campaigner against BSL has contacted everyone he knows regarding the BBC film Death Row Dogs. He says:-

Hi all,
If you hated this programme as much as me, here are the people to make your views known:

Executive producer (BBC): Maxine.watson@bbc.co.uk
Executive producer (Wild pictures production company): paul@wildpictures.co.uk
Producer and Director: Jon@wildpictures.co.uk / john@wildpictures.co.uk

My fear is that we are sleep- walking into yet more restrictions being placed upon ordinary dogs that are a threat to no one – just on the basis of how they look. Staffordshires are the obvious next target.

Best wishes and fight hard for the historic right to have a dog . . .

Roger has also sent out a press release that begins:-

On Tuesday the 24th of January BBC1 aired a programme called “Death Row Dogs”. It was billed as asking “whether the laws work? Why dangerous dogs like the fearsome pit bulls are such an issue? And what can be done to stop the problem getting worse?” (as taken from the BBC1 website).
The film was intended, perhaps, to show the danger of bull breeds in general and of the Pit Bull terrier in particular, as well as to illustrate the bravery of the West Midlands Police in the handling of such potentially difficult operations. It was also used to portray the currently flawed legislation and defend the police for to their seeming inability to protect the public from so-called dangerous dogs.
Dr Mugford and his Company of Animals feel that this film did none of the above. Rather, it misrepresented the pitfalls of the current legislation and showed the Police at their most brutal and their most incompetent when dealing with dogs and their owners. . . .

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What were your thoughts about the film - I wont be able to view it till tomorrow.

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Sue*End BSL*28 Jan 2012 17:39I agree I would have liked to have seen positive , responsbile owners also with their staffies. All the program showed was squalor living. It would have been great to see sort of both sides of the coin. The program wasnt as bad as I thought it was going to be, I really thought it was going to be bias towards the bullies. The program did show BSL does not work, which we all no anyway. I thought the program was ok, apart from poor Tyson I did get very emotional at this part.
The fish tank EWWWWWWW, was there any fish in it ??
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Molly Brown28 Jan 2012 09:15That´s what I thought Jacqui, they could have shown bull breeds being properly looked after, playing etc to balance the prog.
That fish tank was just....yeuuuurk !!
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Jacqui *END B.S.L.*27 Jan 2012 19:02I finally managed to watch this yesterday. Thought the police seemed sympathetic towards the dogs and showed understanding of their behaviour when they were dealing with them as not being vicious, just scared. Thought the programme highlighted the fact that BSL doesn´t work, particularly, showing the dog without a collar being returned to it´s owner even though it had bitten a child, whereas poor Tyson who the police recognised as a friendly sociable dog being pts because the law gave the police no other choice. I´d have liked to have seen some responsible bully owners featured, as those "owners" shown all seemed to live in the same level of squalor, with the dogs sitting surrounded by their own faeces and clearly never having been walked or socialised in any way.
Apart from the terrible conditions the dogs were kept in, what about the state of the fish tank????!!!
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Molly Brown26 Jan 2012 12:57Yes I saw that, the police officer even had to buy the dog a collar and lead. Goodness knows what became of that dog because the owner didn´t seem at all bothered to have it back Sad
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Vena 26 Jan 2012 12:43Molly not every dog seized was killed, ironically one dog that had been seized, and HAD bitten a child, was allowed to be returned to (a rather unconcerned) owner,.because it was not deemed as a PB Type´
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Molly Brown26 Jan 2012 11:00The overwhelming factor seemed to be that only chavs and thugs own these dogs, to which an uninformed public would respond that it reinforced their belief that the dogs were dangerous. In truth, the dogs were kept in appalling conditions by halfwits who couldn´t even look after themselves ! I felt the prog to be unbalanced, and the BBC could have made the point that the dogs are victims, not only of BSL but of the people who own them. Not one of them were charged with owning a banned breed, and, as far as I´m aware (because the prog didn´t tell us), every dog seized was killed. The owners would simply go and get another and the cycle begins again. The DDA does nothing to provide for the rehabilitation of the innocent dogs, nor does it punish owners, except on drug offences. And of course, the end of the prog featured heavily on a child´s funeral, thus setting in our minds that dogs are dangerous and deserve to die ! They also neglected to tell us that the uncle of John Paul Massey was actually breeding pit bulls, that there were three dogs and a litter of pups in that house the night the child was killed, so VERY biased reporting by the press too.
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Vena 26 Jan 2012 09:45K9, whilst l appreciate that not all bully owners are morons l felt the emphases throughout the film was ´not´ the type of dogs involved but the feckless half wits who owned them, the police were responding to complaints made by neighbours/general public, the fact that they were undesirables merely pointed out that the onus was on them not the dogs,l felt the program highlighted the fact that due to the ridiculous law the dogs seized and deemed of ´type´ could not be re-homed poor Tyson was a victim of his hapless owner being that she was already banned from keeping dogs and charged with cruelty.l didnt feel the program came across as a "fear generating" gimic rather it pointed out just how unfair the DDA really is .
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Blue Cross Response http://www.bluecross.org.uk/478-96656/government-urged-to-act-as-innocent-dogs-are-destroyed.html
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01bbvfk/Death_Row_Dogs/
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K9 *END B.S.L*25 Jan 2012 22:41P.S Love Robert mugford!! He helped my godmother get her 2 GSD back years ago when they were siezed by police,what an awesome man and advocate for dogs of all breeds.
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K9 *END B.S.L*25 Jan 2012 22:39Again another really poor representation of bully breed ownership!! If those trailor trash and wanabe gangster owners are all they could find (or wanted to find )
then it was obvious from the start that the program would be another "fear generating" gimic.
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angie willems25 Jan 2012 19:27I dropped in just as they were going to court and pts-ing the dog (think it was CBB I was watching). It was very sad but everyone was saying how they had no choice according to the law and they did seem not to agree with what was happening - so that bit seemed quite fair and to the point.
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Vena 25 Jan 2012 18:56I sat down to watch it fully expecting it to be staffie/bull breed bashing and scare mongering but it really wasnt, and I thought it seemed a lot of the people involved with policing and enforcing these laws thought it was a nonsense too,not very pleasant viewing but felt it wasn´t as biased as i expected and showed it as it really is, the conditions most of the dogs were kept was appalling and once again innocent animals died due to having morons as owners the scene of Tyson being put to sleep was really heartbreaking ., l did not agree with some of the methods used for removing the dogs from owners property but under the circumstances i wonder did the police have a choice .
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 22 2012, 23:39

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personally, i havnt watched it.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 23 2012, 11:20

I didn't watch it, but I hear it wasn't too good.

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Post by Kathy Fri Mar 23 2012, 14:43

Sorry I missed it too,
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 23 2012, 16:28

I watched it and it wasn't very nice Sad

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 23 2012, 17:01

i watched it. yes it showed the police were simpathetic to the dogs but like some of the comments mention they showed half wit owners and nice dogs that were just living in squaler. one dog was to be checked to see if it was a pitty type when clearly you could see it wasnt. aparently there are 54 or so points that have to bechecked to say what type your dog is and if it deemed to be a pitty type it will be PTS. one dog i saw looked more lurcher type that pitty it was a heinz 57 variety. they never showed a responsible owner becasue the show was about the police not the dogs it would have only showed the ones the police were called to and these were the half wits

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Post by Steve Fri Mar 23 2012, 17:17

i thought the show was alright. just show how bad our society is it wasn't anti dog at all

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