Skye and Buster family trees

Skyes family tree
Sire Kenmilleven bluer than blue
Mister bloo
Kenmilquin bluebell

Dam Kenmillix first dawn
Blue dragon
Kenmilfore blue babe

Skye also has vanoric voo doo, Crashkon what a cracker, Stevies brave blue boy of sparysbullys, High flyers hooch among others

Busters family tree

Sire The blue boss
Primestaff blue destiny
Platinum secret

Dam Lil dancer
Silver zella
Lil blue secret

Anyone have any relatives

It's hard to say without actually seeing the pedigree. Can you scan them, or maybe take a pic & post them?

yes, kenny got varonic voodoo there too im got 2 get kennys on here too, Im not very good at things like this . What should i be looking at when looking at the pedigree

Yes, Rommel's Grandmother on Father's side is Kenmilltri Delightful who is Kenmilquin Bluebell's dam. Rommel's sire is also from the Kenmilquin stud. Here is a copy of Rommel's pedigree:

http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=131330&gens=6

There is definitely quite a bit of similarity in their breeding. I must admit I wish I owned Valglo Casanova at Crossguns, he is one seriously good looking Staffy

Rommel's sire is also from the Kenmilquin stud.

Hi Kenmilquin is not an affix its the name the kennel club puts on some litters that are registered without an affix. Its a different one for each year for example kenmilltri, kenine, kendeci.

Really? I didn't know that.

Why do the kennel club do it?

IckleMini wrote:Really? I didn't know that.

Why do the kennel club do it?

If the owners don't want to name the litter themselves ( won't go into the reasons ) the kennel club will do it for them.

That's a bit bizarre!

So presumably it alway starts with 'Ken'?

IckleMini wrote:That's a bit bizarre!

So presumably it alway starts with 'Ken'?

Its not really when you think how many litter registrations there are from every breed, yes it starts with ken - kennel club

we have vanoric voo doo in stans tree

Ice has
Silver zella
Crashkon what a cracker , jacko blue , black penny all the crashkon lines
And vanoric voodoo

Blue has
Silver zella
Crashkon what a cracker , jacko blue , black penny a ll the craskon lines
The blue boss , cassies black angel , ch blitstaff mad o route

Yep quite a few names I recognize there.

Duke: http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=131096&gens=6

Molly: http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=125634&gens=6

Lily has Blue Blazer boy and Blue Bayou like Rommel

Diesel has Mister Bloo in his pedigree

Obi has Mister Blue and Blue Genesis in his

Just checked both of their inbreeding coefficient and Skye's is 3.6% and busters is high at 22.9% but he's the one that is more to the breed standard

Now if I was to breed them together (not saying I will) but the pups would be 8.2% which is still above the average but at least it's not very high

Yeah buster could of inherited the same gene as a previous ancestor

It's silver zella that makes him so high busters mum is 31.8% but I didn't get him because of his ped it was more to remove him from the home he was in

geez...

Oh well that's fair enough

Gazagem wrote:Just checked both of their inbreeding coefficient and Skye's is 3.6% and busters is high at 22.9% but he's the one that is more to the breed standard

Now if I was to breed them together (not saying I will) but the pups would be 8.2% which is still above the average but at least it's not very high

I know what you mean, but that doesn't remove the health problems. Inbreeding isn't just about the health of one pup, but the possible genetic faults that could be passed from that pup to others, even if the original pup wasn't affected by them itself.

The only way to tackle the problem of inbreeding health issues is not to mate a high COI dog at all.

Caryll wrote:

Gazagem wrote:Just checked both of their inbreeding coefficient and Skye's is 3.6% and busters is high at 22.9% but he's the one that is more to the breed standard

Now if I was to breed them together (not saying I will) but the pups would be 8.2% which is still above the average but at least it's not very high

I know what you mean, but that doesn't remove the health problems. Inbreeding isn't just about the health of one pup, but the possible genetic faults that could be passed from that pup to others, even if the original pup wasn't affected by them itself.

The only way to tackle the problem of inbreeding health issues is not to mate a high COI dog at all.

I see what you mean but I feel bad that although I didn't get buster from his breeder they feel it's fine to breed a dog (his mum) that is so high
If I was to breed which I have done in the past with straight back gsds (all pups had great homes all 3 litters were able to be returned and some came to us for hols and one we rehomed at the age of 9 and we took on his pup at the age of 7) I would have all health checks done but I know how much hard work it is to breed dogs and not the money making that everyone seems to think it is but so many reasons not to breed especially time and any pup breed from us would be able to be returned what ever the age all pups would also be microchipped so they could be traced back to us rather than end up in kennels

I Have High Flyers Hootch In My Lillys

johneva wrote:Yep quite a few names I recognize there.

Duke: http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=131096&gens=6

Molly: http://www.stamtavler.com/dogarchive/details.php?id=125634&gens=6

My Lilly Has Some In Common These Ones Duke Has The Same

High Flyers Hooch
Treasured Lady
Breeze Queen of Skys
Blue Blazer Boy
Alamstone Boy

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