Game dog

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 11:57

Is anyone on this site or looked at it before? Anyone want to tell me why so many people seem to talk about, share tips and openly express their love for dog fighting and why are authorities not doing something?

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 12:11

I have seen it, and it disgusted me. I haven't been on there for some considerable time - not since the first time, actually!

The authorities in this country can't do anything about it because it isn't a british site.

by **janey** Tue Jan 24 2012, 12:14

Not seen the site and I'm pleased I haven't Sad

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 12:15

You don't want to look, Janey - it's horrible.

I don't know how much is just bragging or how much is actually true, but it isn't nice. Sad

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 13:26

Where is it from? I intend to report it.

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 13:29

I'm really not sure. I think it's an American forum, but I could well be wrong.

by **Steve** Tue Jan 24 2012, 14:00

they just scum reallyand it's pretty big forum

by **Steve** Tue Jan 24 2012, 14:01

i saw an topic about how great farmer boys was back in the day I dont want to s

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 16:32

Steve wrote:they just scum reallyand it's pretty big forum

Yes, it is big, with loads of active posters on there. Makes you realise that fighting is still a 'sport' in many parts of the world - including the UK. Sad

by **Steve** Tue Jan 24 2012, 16:36

yea i dont know how people could watch them I dont want to s

it bad enough watching clip of it on on the bbc 1 tv show about the farmer boys, i would rather watch to bloke or 2 female fight hee hee

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on that forum there are hell alot of uk users thinking

telling people how good their dogs are.

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 16:43

Ive emailed a UK web person to advise. This type of thing is as bad as drugs and child porn in my book!

by Skullkandi Tue Jan 24 2012, 19:16

is it game-dog.org?

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 21:36

Disgusting. Curiosity got the better of me and I googled it. What is wrong with these people Sad

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 21:38

Skullkandi wrote:is it game-dog.org?

Yes.

by **Andy** Tue Jan 24 2012, 21:49

Not seen it and dont want to by the sound of it angry

Its one thing researching the breeds history which enevitably involves fighting, catching etc, you cant get away from that unfortunately, but the modern APBT as a breed, is in my honest opinion, the ultimate dog in every way bar none !!! followed very closely by the staffy ... neither of which needs to be game bred or tested today to keep the essence of the breed alive ... so from what you are saying, the site is just a group of cruel f*ckers who should be strung up!!

I am a believer in allowing pits and staffys the opportunity to work, and work hard if done with the dogs health and fitness in mind which they excel in and love, but there is only one way a dog can be truely game tested !! which is why sites like that should not be allowed Sad

(I dont normally air my opinion unless I have first looked at what I'm talking about, but in this case, I'm not going to Crying or Very sad

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Just my opinion.

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 21:57

Andy wrote:Not seen it and dont want to by the sound of it

Its one thing researching the breeds history which enevitably involves fighting, catching etc, you cant get away from that unfortunately, but the modern APBT as a breed, is in my honest opinion, the ultimate dog in every way bar none !!! followed very closely by the staffy ... neither of which needs to be game bred or tested today to keep the essence of the breed alive ... so from what you are saying, the site is just a group of cruel f*ckers who should be strung up!!

I am a believer in allowing pits and staffys the opportunity to work, and work hard if done with the dogs health and fitness in mind which they excel in and love, but there is only one way a dog can be truely game tested !! which is why sites like that should not be allowed (I dont normally air my opinion unless I have first looked at what I'm talking about, but in this case, I'm not going to )

Just my opinion.

Andy, you're absolutely right!

We all know the history of our breeds, and should all know that some dogs will fight other dogs and enjoy doing it. But to deliberately set two dogs against each other, possibly to the death and definitely to bad injury, is disgusting and I agree people (?) like that should be strung up!

by **Msigler** Tue Jan 24 2012, 22:17

Had never heard of it. Don't want to see it. banghead

by Guest Tue Jan 24 2012, 22:24

In my ignorance I actually read one or two posts and was horrified by the thinly veiled boasting of how 'game' certain dogs of theirs were.

I never went back on there.

by Summerisle Wed Jan 25 2012, 00:48

I have an interest in the history of all bully breeds and came across that site some time ago while googling some info. I made the mistake of reading dog fight reports from the 60's 70's etc. I couldn't believe what I was reading, the in depth descriptions of how they unfolded. How people could sit there and watch that, people who owned and raised these dogs is beyond belief. These types of reports aren't exclusive to the net though, there's a guy by the name of Stratton who's written many books about the APBT and they have this sort of stuff in them aswell.

From what I gather they only talk about dogs from the past that are no longer living in regard to fighting. The obsession with those people is the Gameness of a dog, as most of you know there's only one true way to test a dogs gameness, sadly. There's a Stafford forum on there aswell, they despise show bred Staffords with a passion. I didn't know this happened to be honest. Sadly There's a few more sites like this around.

by **Andy** Wed Jan 25 2012, 10:08

Yes I bought one of Strattons larger books from the states about 20yrs ago, and while it has a lot of important info in it, and he states he is NOT condoning fighting, there's an awfull lot about it, and a lot of info on ways of conditioning, pit rules, etc etc Straight Face

I really cant understand this sick facination for gameness Sad

... especially when the same ppl say they dont agree with fighting Surprised

.... as we know, gameness is a quality fit for only one purpose, so why is it important if its never going to be called upon angry

I am proud of the way my Max is turning out, healthy, happy, and a fine example in my opinion, and if he was stood next to another of similar size and build, NOBODY on this earth could tell by looking at them if one was more game than the other !!!!! so whats the point angry

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 10:45

It's because they want others to know that their dog could fight if put to it - it's a compulsion, a weird & twisted idea that today's stafford/pit bull isn't a real stafford/pit bull unless it can hold its own in a pit.

That's why they don't like show bred dogs, because most of them, even the da ones, wouldn't be any good at organised fighting.

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 12:10

They are knobs. Pure and simple.

by Skullkandi Wed Jan 25 2012, 14:57

didn't see anything provocative on it, though =/

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 15:03

Skullkandi wrote:didn't see anything provocative on it, though =/

You have to be kidding!

They are glorifying dog fighting & 'game' dogs & you see nothing provocative in that?

by Skullkandi Wed Jan 25 2012, 15:06

Caryll wrote:
Skullkandi wrote:didn't see anything provocative on it, though =/

You have to be kidding!

They are glorifying dog fighting & 'game' dogs & you see nothing provocative in that?

I meant I can't find anything, all the threads are locked down.
This is the site I'm looking at:
Maybe it's the wrong one...

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 15:13

That's the site. I can open most of the threads. There are some you have to sign in to read, I think, but I won't sign in on principle.

Just about every topic has somewhere in it someone going on about 'gameness' and an APBT not being worth a gumnut if it isn't 'game'.

by Skullkandi Wed Jan 25 2012, 15:23

Oh okay, I just looked to deeply into it...

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:24

I know that the bully breeds where initially bred for competitive fighting. Personally I find the practice to be totally revolting and just the discussion upsets me no end.

I really work hard to make sure that my boy does not ever find out what he may or may not be capable of. I cannot and will not even consider how he might hold up in an altercation so I guess I do not understand any human looking at the 'gameness' of a dog instead of the love and devotion they are so willing to give us.

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:27

Ty wrote: I cannot and will not even consider how he might hold up in an altercation so I guess I do not understand any human looking at the 'gameness' of a dog instead of the love and devotion they are so willing to give us.

by **Steve** Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:27

anybody who buy or like dogs from farmer boy must be dog fighters themself i cant be brother to find the topic i was talking about becasue it was year ago on but i just did a quick search and find this one.

Hello everyone . Dont mean to jump in on disscussion but only new to site and dont know where to post pics of me dogs . This is Teigans Mika . She is from Pounders Stella and Garys Lagen , She is 2 and quater years old . Very Atheletic and obidient , great around my daughter and other kids , maybe abit to friendly with her tounge . She is great with my other staff (max) as he is 15 now . He didnt like her at first but just puts up with her now lol .
We use Teigans Mika as her paper name but we as a family call her Shiva (dont laugh ) was the wifes idea from the movie polar express .
Anyway back to this dog of mine .
She is a real fine example of the old time staffords .In her pedigree we have Fair & Squares champion Milo , East streets Mac , East Streets Beanie 2 , Flanders FieldBoys 3 , Farmer Boys Blue , Farmer Boys Blue Bell , Kaos Kennels Blue , KK Scrag , Scratch Kennels Haggler , Flanders Field Boys Beanie ,East Streets China , This line goes way back to East Streets Jocko , Ricky B`s Champion Psycho , Farmer Boys Jonah the list goes on and on but heres a couple of pics of her and any comments , good or bad will be answered .

by **Steve** Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:30

also

Can you tell if this dog of jjbulls is proven (and I dont mean jumping over and over a piece of wood) or is it bred just to produce "pretty blue dogs"
If it is the 2nd answer can you tell me why its has been mated to a bitch as it will only produce infearior staffords and there is more than enough of those about. People like you are the downfall of this great breed

proven = pit Wink

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:31

and a lot of the members are ment to be older so its not just chavs that give pits/STAFFS a bad name angry

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:32

I vaguely remember reading some posts by farmers boy when I first went on that site. He sickened me. Talk about a blood lust. He revelled in his dogs' 'gameness'.

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 16:48

The first couple of things I looked at on there I couldn't see anything, then I saw posts complaining about breeders not culling curs (guessing thats a dog thats no good for them) and would it be ok to breed from a female that backs down after 30 mins to a proven male.
I am very nieve when it comes to this sort of thing but a lot of the posts there was no doubt at all what they were talking about. They are the ones that should be culled. It completely disgusted me Sad

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 18:09

Ive heard a lot of people saying things like if the bitch doesnt fight the male when hes trying to mount her shes no use well im sorry but i spayed my dog because she showed some DA and i didn't want to risk that passing on!

Horrible people.

By curs i assume they mean runts. A lot of breeders DO get rid of the runts but thats cause it usually dies anyway unless its hand-reared and when it has its usually poorly and not any use for breeding or fighting which is all these dispicable humans want them for. But thats not true, runts are just as good as any other dog if raised right!

by **Ben** Wed Jan 25 2012, 19:42

So glad I have remaind blissfully ignorant of these sites. I won't go check them out and don't ever want to see gameness in my own boys. I prefer them the way they are. All cuddles and no bite. That is the staffy I love.

by **Andy** Wed Jan 25 2012, 20:35

Equi wrote:Ive heard a lot of people saying things like if the bitch doesnt fight the male when hes trying to mount her shes no use well im sorry but i spayed my dog because she showed some DA and i didn't want to risk that passing on!

Horrible people.

By curs i assume they mean runts. A lot of breeders DO get rid of the runts but thats cause it usually dies anyway unless its hand-reared and when it has its usually poorly and not any use for breeding or fighting which is all these dispicable humans want them for. But thats not true, runts are just as good as any other dog if raised right!

Hayley - a "cur" is a dog of any other breed than APBT, but can also include an APBT if it is deamed not deeply game Sad

... this was a term used many many decades ago, but these cruel f*ckers of today do there best to keep all this sh!t alive angry

by **Msigler** Wed Jan 25 2012, 21:52

My pits are proven... Proven couch potatoes. Tongues

by **Steve** Wed Jan 25 2012, 21:54

mike

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 22:14

Msigler wrote:My pits are proven... Proven couch potatoes.

I think everyone can agree on that!! lol i can see your dog snoozing in the corner and a "game" dog standing poking it like...what do i doo?

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 22:21

Cur = A dog that won't fight

The fact that people still glorify this sickening practice in this day and age disgusts me.

by Guest Wed Jan 25 2012, 22:21

CatStina wrote:Cur = A dog that won't fight

The fact that people still glorify this sickening practice in this day and age disgusts me.

Absolutely.

by **Msigler** Wed Jan 25 2012, 23:08

Equi wrote:
Msigler wrote:My pits are proven... Proven couch potatoes.

I think everyone can agree on that!! lol i can see your dog snoozing in the corner and a "game" dog standing poking it like...what do i doo?

Oliver can't be bothered. No time for such things when there is a perfectly good couch to snooze on. Laughing

by Guest Thu Jan 26 2012, 09:42

Msigler wrote:My pits are proven... Proven couch potatoes.

Love it! Now if we could only solve society's ills by culling the 'curs' of human origin. (I am using the term very loosely). Trouble is who gets to decide what is a 'cur'

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