To dress or not to dress?

Just had a fight with someone in the park .. another staffy owner and he has had me thinking.. he said as kuma was in heat few weeks ago am bang out of order and a daft boy who shouldn't have my dog in a park when she is on heat .. while 80% the time its empty and a stay away from anyone when she is on heat al add.. but its had me thinking do a get her dressed? and get a puppy after the baby is born or hold of and have mine own puppy from her litter? ano we want another for company but cant decide if we should just have her dressed or hold off .. ~

Grr I had an arguement with a dog owner whilst I walked Moo on heat too, what do they think, you just keep them indoors all the time??!!?!? She was on a lead and it was her dog that hadn't been castrated that was the problem. Everyone has a responcibility whether its a boy or girl!

I always encourage nuetering but its your choice, and no you aren't silly for walking her, as I said earlier its just as much there responcibility too!

kuma was on her lead and the guy came over talking away and let his off . A didnt mind as he kept pulling his staffy off bt kuma had his dog pinnd so no chance a her geting mini babies lol just not sure if a want to get hur dressd and just buy a male pup next summer?

a like the idea of using a breeder.. But on my other hand a want to learn and experence my own with her.well ye when she was on heat she was intrested in one stud but she likes to play but am 50 50 now just ad love her own pups but the hassel with folk in area there jelous and blame me for his dog humpin a pillow cause myne was on heat ! Am realy cheesed off about it all a might only b 21 but am not thick or daft wanting to breed my dog 4 money god ad give them away to have a clean bill a health ! Rant over

Huh! They all hump pillows whether there's a bitch in heat or not!! Well, Dempsey does, anyway!

It's a huge decision whether to breed from a bitch or not. There's the cost, vets bills etc, whelping box, choosing the right stud, health testing for both bitch & dog. You also have to find good homes for possibly 8 or 9 pups. Financially it's rarely worth it.

I bred 3 litters (2 border collies & 1 belgian shepherd) and it was so much hassle! I doubt I'd do it again.

I personally wouldn't breed unless it was with two health tested & kennel club registered dogs, and it was for the betterment of the breed. There are so many unregistered dogs & staffy crosses out there. I certainly wouldn't breed just to produce a playmate for my dog, or just to see if my bitch liked being a mum.

If I were in your place Sean, I'd get Kuma spayed and then find a really good breeder if you want a new pup. As Caryll said, there is soooo much to thinking about when breeding. Maybe you could find a pup with the same lines as Kuma? Your call mate, that's just what i'd do in your shoes

Sorry, Gem, that wasn't aimed at you - I just feel that litters shouldn't be bred just because it seems a nice thing to try. Most bitches go through life without having pups & it really doesn't bother them in the least.

I would have liked to use Dempsey at stud, but he really isn't good enough breed-wise.

Bandit was a different matter. We used him twice, but both times no pups resulted so we retired him gracefully.

I do understand in a way why people get frustrated because it leads there dogs to running off to where ever the bitch lives as they smell the scent i dont think any body has a right to tell anybody what to do though. i remember when my brother got his staffy they only had him a week and were walking him when i bitch went past in season he went mental chased her and they couldnt find jake or the other dog jake was found 9 hours later he had walked 12 mile they were lucky they got him back they managed to find the bitch not long after and then the women moaned because she was going to have to pay for her dog to have an abortion if the dog had been caught which she had but to me she was the one in the wrong for having her bitch off the lead in season. I personally dont mind bitches being walked in season as i dont think any dog should be locked up if there kept on a lead i think its fine

I agree. It's a matter of responsible dog ownership on behalf of the dog & bitch owners. With all the dogs I've had, I've never had one run off after a bitch, neither have I had a bitch run off for a dog. You just have to be sensible & aware of the possible problems.

Bitches need exercise whether they're in season or not. I think as long as the bitch is kept on the lead, and any dog owners around are warned that the bitch is in season so they can control their dog, it should be fine. Noone has the right to tell a dog owner that they shouldnt be walking a bitch in season. Imagine how she'd feel, with the misery of being in season and being kept inside too, that's just so unfair.

Last week I was walking Dempsey & we came across a weimeraner bitch in season. She was on the lead & so was Dempsey so there wasn't a problem, but all Dempsey kept doing was walked from side to side, all stiff legged & with his tail almost curled over his back & sort of rumbling deep in his throat! Poor boy!

Yes i remember when my fella walked kaiser his mate said he would walk his dalmation with him anyway when my fella got back he said kaiser was trying to hump her baring in mind the poor girl is 10 years old bless her i said to his mate she aint in season is she and he said yes i wasnt happy as we had to put up with kaiser trying to hump us for about 3 days

Caryll wrote:Last week I was walking Dempsey & we came across a weimeraner bitch in season. She was on the lead & so was Dempsey so there wasn't a problem, but all Dempsey kept doing was walked from side to side, all stiff legged & with his tail almost curled over his back & sort of rumbling deep in his throat! Poor boy!

At least he was well behaved and not trying to jump on her. Hmmm, ebt x weimeraner, wonder what that would look like?!

Shontelle wrote:Hmmm, ebt x weimeraner, wonder what that would look like?!

Very strange I should think!

Dempsey behaved himself because we were both sensible & kept a bit of a distance between us! That's what I mean about it being down to responsible dog ownership.

A like everyones views, theres no chance of finding kuma's lines dont have the number of were a got her from hard choice to make and think it needs done within the next month or too if am goiny to have her sprayd

well seany boy if i was you and i wasn't going to breed her i would definetly get her spayed

When's her next season due? Can it wait till after the next one? I know we've been through this a dozen times, but it's better to wait till a bitch has matured physically & mentally before spaying. So tiny breeds can be spayed around 9-12 months, but larger, slower-maturing breeds shouldn't be done till they're around 18 months or more.

She finished her last one about a month ago.. well 15 October was the last time a saw any blood from her but her bits are still slightly swollen like a little bulge lol . A do think a might try breeding once but its realy upto me and if things work ok its on my head my responsibility ano things can and will go wrong and its not about money its about the health of any puppies . and ano some people will say about unwanted puppies but a would have my fingers crossed on them all going to nice homes not to anyone who just wants a staffy to say to there mates look at me... but hey could still swing the other way and have her sprayd will find out around feb when the baby is here if kuma has turnd in to a mature female

Don't forget to give Kuma loads of attention when the baby comes. As long as she doesn't feel left out she'll bond really quickly with the baby.

Whether you breed her or not is up to you. Same as whether you spay her or not. All I'd say is do your homework first in either case, and let her mature before you do either!

Hiya, ive purposley kepy out of this debate so far lol as everyone no's my opinion but all i would say is that if u do decided to breed her please wait untill shes maybe 2? Im not sure how old she is now....So shes fully developed etc....
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blaze666 wrote:Hiya, ive purposley kepy out of this debate so far lol as everyone no's my opinion but all i would say is that if u do decided to breed her please wait untill shes maybe 2? Im not sure how old she is now....So shes fully developed etc....
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Excellent advice.

ye toatally agree with you a have said since a got her if a was to 2 and a half would be the earlyst as she is bonkers just now ...lol a wantd to see if she would calm down and a breeder local to me told me that if she had her on pups she would calm down alot but a would need to be prepaird for the worst as alot of things could and probs would go wrong .

great advice guys thanks

Caryll wrote:

blaze666 wrote:Hiya, ive purposley kepy out of this debate so far lol as everyone no's my opinion but all i would say is that if u do decided to breed her please wait untill shes maybe 2? Im not sure how old she is now....So shes fully developed etc....
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Excellent advice.

i third that blaze good advice on your most passionate subject

Good luck either way !!!!

Thanks guys