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Post by ash_staffy Tue Sep 27 2011, 22:12

hi my puppy has started bein argressive when meeting other dogs showing his teeth and snapping but i dont know why as he lives with his mum and fine when he sees his brother, he is fine when he knows the dog is ok but he seems to of been like this since a husky snapped for him he is 15 weeks and starting to get his bits thought it could be the testeron ? i hate it cause looks bad when meeting other dogs

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 27 2011, 22:21

They are an aggressive breed by nature. There are some of them that will just not get along with other dogs. That being said if they are socialized with a puppy class or dogs that are properly socialized they get along well. If your pup only shows aggression towards other aggressive dogs it should't be an issue just avoid them when you can.

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Post by ash_staffy Tue Sep 27 2011, 22:24

he is ok once he gets to know them and when i tell him to stop but he only 15 weeks and only seems to do it after the other dog showed aggression to him but its only if there face to face i think he might feel intimadated as he doesnt do it to bigger dogs he sits with his tail inbetween his legs lol

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Post by Kathy Wed Sep 28 2011, 13:29

This could be that the two dogs are staring at each other, which could be seen as aggression/a challenge. Just cover his eyes with your hand or something. Good luck
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Post by ash_staffy Wed Sep 28 2011, 14:29

ok ill try it i think that it is when there look eye 2 eye

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Post by johneva Wed Sep 28 2011, 15:11

http://staffy-bull-terrier.co.uk/socializingyourstaffords.html

Might be worth a read.

As already mentioned some staffs will just not get on with other dogs unfortunatly, though I think personally thats bit of a copout comment.

I personally think that is socialized correctly when young they should get on with other dogs, but they need to be taught how to interact with other dogs and be taught whats acceptable and whats not just like everything with a new pup.

Thats why they say the more people and dogs you can let your dog meet in the first month of having them the better. But when doing this its upto you to teach them when they are doing wrong and try not to put them into situations where they could be attacked as that is alway going to harm any socialization your doing. Not always as easy as it sounds unfortunatly most people dont know 100s of dogs that are all trust worthy to let your new pup socialize with.
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Post by gem Thu Sep 29 2011, 11:31

I think like myself I should be upset at some coments I have the most loving girl you could ever meet and Ive also got a dog that is DA they have been brought up the same way and were well sociolised as pups.
You can read any info you like about the breed and it will state that a bred to type sbt can be da so cop out I dont agree
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 29 2011, 12:03

hi you stated that he lives with his mum when the litter was small did you allow her to do her job and when she got rumblly with them did you stop her
or did you let her got on with it without interferance.
the reason i ask is a friend was verry protective of his girls litter(spaniels)and a few of them went a bit dog aggresive.
and was told by a dog trainer the course was not letting the mum to socialise them properly.


ps im not having a go at your doggy parenting skills thumbs up

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Post by johneva Thu Sep 29 2011, 12:26

gem wrote:I think like myself I should be upset at some coments I have the most loving girl you could ever meet and Ive also got a dog that is DA they have been brought up the same way and were well sociolised as pups.
You can read any info you like about the breed and it will state that a bred to type sbt can be da so cop out I dont agree

Sorry you find my veiws on DA upsetting or offensive it was certainly not ment to offend or upset anybody and its also simpley my opinion on the matter.

I personally think any dog can be taught how to behave with other dogs, not saying I am capable or people unable to resolve DA issues are any less a good dog owner ect.

I just personally think if you can teach a dog to not do things that are natural like chewing things or mouthing people, jumping up people, ect ect. Then I see no reason why you carnt teach a dog who naturally does not like other dogs how to behave with other dogs.

I agree some dogs its much easier than others and some dogs naturally get on with other dogs better than others. But to just submit yourself to the fact you have a DA dog and do nothing more is not a good option I personally think. So to resign yourself to the fact you have a DA dog an not try to resolve the issue is a cop out in my eyes.

In your case I am sure you have tried many things and always tried to give your dog a posative experiance of other dogs and teach them how to behave with other dogs an it just hasnt worked for you. But that does not mean the dog can not be trained to get on with other dogs.

Dogs dont naturally herd sheep or get along with cats, but this can be trained, again some easier than others but I have the personal opinion that all dogs can be trained. Some require more time, different methods ect.

So please dont be offened by my comments at all, its just my personal opinion and I am not saying I could do it or anything like that.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 29 2011, 13:40

Good to see a differnce of opinion discussed in a positive way. The original post and my initial response was geared toward dogs not getting along with certain dogs. I think most everyone would agree with that as we all don't just get along.

SBT, AmStaffs and Pitbulls IMHO are all aggressive breeds by nature. It's what they were breed for in the first place and you can't simply erase genetic predisposition. The media also portrays them in a very negative light and many governments have placed bans or restrictions on the breed. Way more often than the bad news stories are a direct result of an irresponsible or inexperienced handler.

When I was considering getting Suki this was my biggest concern. We took extra care to make sure she was properly socialized and was introduced to as many different types of dogs as possible. She plays off leash every day and has never shown any serious aggression issues or incidents.

That being said we always make certain that we are never more than a few seconds away and never hesitate to seperate her if the play even starts to get out of hand. We also never let her play with a dog until they have meet on more than a few occasions or have walked together.

There are instances where certain dogs just won't get along no matter what. There are also some dogs IMHO that just can't get along with other dogs in general. It's not neccessarily a result of a bad handler or poor socialization it's just a fact of life. Much in the same way there are people with little to no social skills. Not to compare them to people but maybe adding a different perspective.

I think everyone should try socialization and learn body language and then adjust their interactions from there.

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Post by gem Sun Oct 02 2011, 13:50

I think its easy to say that its possible for all dogs to get along if socialised "depends on the dog" simple as that .

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Post by Lizzie Sun Oct 02 2011, 14:33

I have to agree with Gem here. Harry can be DA and when it first started I was really stressed and came on here for advice. My point is that Harry is my 6th Staffie and the first one that has been DA. My previous dogs were not well socialized (because of where I lived for 40 years) but Harry has been. So there is no rule of thumb, its all to do with the dogs nature imho.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 02 2011, 16:09

johneva wrote:
I personally think any dog can be taught how to behave with other dogs, not saying I am capable or people unable to resolve DA issues are any less a good dog owner ect.

So to resign yourself to the fact you have a DA dog an not try to resolve the issue is a cop out in my eyes.


That's actually not right. Whilst I agree that most dogs can be trained to a greater or lesser extent to at least tolerate other dogs, some will always be DA, and there really isn't anything you can do about it other than get to know your own dog intimately & read its body language like a book. That way you can avoid possible confrontations.

I'm sure gem never 'resigned' herself to having a DA dog, but there comes a time when you have to accept that your dog just is that way. After all, Duke was a very well trained, well socialised show dog -well used to being around other dogs of all breeds. If I remember correctly he was fine until he got to about 12-18 months old. That's just the way some of them are - not all, and maybe not that many nowadays, but some certainly will never be dog friendly.

My last boy was just like that. Great as a pup, great with dogs on the show circuit. But when he hit arount 15 months old he changed. Not overnight, but gradually over about 6 months. Nothing I did would change his view of other dogs. If he didn't like them, he would go for them - and mean it! He would tolerate submissive bitches, most puppies and one or two submissive males. I tried to correct the behaviour in several ways right up until he was about4 or 5 years old. Then, for my peace of mind (and his) I accepted the way he was & just altered the way we took him out etc. It was much, much better that way. It isn't, in any way, a cop out. Just a way of controlling a difficult situation without resorting to muzzles.

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Post by gem Sun Oct 02 2011, 17:02

Duke was born dominant he was around 10 months old when we noticed that he was very uncomfortable around other dogs I have loads of pics of him side by side with other dogs but there is a limit with him. Without knowing him personally you would never know he is da he has a comfort zone that he will tolerate others I cant let him off lead to play and thats not because he doesnt know how to he plays all the time with my other dog and our family and freinds and loved our cat who we sadly lost a few years ago. He is a joy to have never had any issues and we love him to bits he is what he is and im not going to feel Ive let him down in any way I wouldnt change anything about him Big Grin
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