Luxating Patella

by cairo Fri Mar 25 2011, 18:09

Been to the vets today, Cairo has been limping on and off for the past few days, Diagnosis is a Luxating Patella, just waiting on getting the go ahead from teh insurance. 2 Questions

1 - Anyone else had this problem or operation

2 - Anyone else dealt with Argos Pet Insurance.

Feel pretty worried at the moment, vet says its pretty straightforward and nothing to worry about but me & my wife are worried

by **janey** Fri Mar 25 2011, 18:47

I'm really sorry I dont have a clue on either, whats the vet said and what does it entail? If the vets says its straightforward then lets hope. Insurance is a something I haven't claimed against, does sound worrying but I don't know what it is. Off to have a look.

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1569&aid=457

Found this at least they say its commen and best caught early.

by Guest Fri Mar 25 2011, 20:49

It's a relatively simple operation normally, and one that most vets will have good experience of. A lot of breeds suffer from it, it's hereditary. I didn't think staffs got it much, but I know that Bull Terriers do.

After the op he'll need to rest for a while, but he'll be up around & back to normal before you know it.

by cairo Sat Apr 16 2011, 16:07

Had the op yesterday morning, Argos sorted it all out with a pre op authorisation, Surgeon says everything has gone really well but the wee man is very drowsy today and has a very cornish pastyesque scar on his leg

by **janey** Sat Apr 16 2011, 16:23

Bless, pleased to hear it went well, and cornish pasty, that gave me a giggle Big Grin

by Guest Sat Apr 16 2011, 16:48

oh.. hope the precious fella gets well soon...
doesn't he look sad in the photo.. bless him !

by **gem** Sat Apr 16 2011, 20:22

Awww he will feel better soon look at his little face bless him Smile

by Guest Sun Apr 17 2011, 00:39

Poor little guy! He looks so sorry for himself. I'm sure he'll be feeling much better very soon.

I liked the pasteyish bit too!

by franki Mon Apr 18 2011, 06:22

cairo wrote:

Had the op yesterday morning, Argos sorted it all out with a pre op authorisation, Surgeon says everything has gone really well but the wee man is very drowsy today and has a very cornish pastyesque scar on his leg

my stafford also has a luxating patella, hes having surgery in a few weeks. my dog is 2 years old and i dont want him to be lame for the rest of his life. how is your dog going, is the scarr on his leg going to big. how do you keep your dog calm afterwards so he doesnt re injure it while the knee is mending, did the vet say he will recover 100% after the surgery.

by cairo Mon Apr 18 2011, 07:55

He has a follow up vet appointment this evening, op was only done on Friday morning, so far so good, he is in his crate while we are not in the room, and settles really well in there. scar will probably hardly be noticable once the hair grows back.He is 2 as well, so same age as your dog. He is dealing with it realy well, short leash walks to the end of the garden and back is all he is allowed at the moment, but is toe touching already so its not bothering him to much. all being well in about 3 months he will be back to his old self, minus the limp!

by **janey** Mon Apr 18 2011, 09:44

Let us know how your check up goes later, pleased to hear your all coping x

by Guest Mon Apr 18 2011, 11:47

Awww bless him and his cornish pasty scar Tongues

i hope he is all better soon > Big Grin

< Cairo sends a big staffy kiss to your cairo too! kiss

by cairo Mon Apr 18 2011, 17:36

just back from Vets, she is very happy with his progress, he is putting weight onto his leg already which apparently is a good sign

by Guest Mon Apr 18 2011, 17:41

that is great news!! Smile

by Guest Mon Apr 18 2011, 20:32

Glad to hear it - he'll come on really well, I'm sure!

by franki Tue Apr 19 2011, 09:52

cairo wrote:He has a follow up vet appointment this evening, op was only done on Friday morning, so far so good, he is in his crate while we are not in the room, and settles really well in there. scar will probably hardly be noticable once the hair grows back.He is 2 as well, so same age as your dog. He is dealing with it realy well, short leash walks to the end of the garden and back is all he is allowed at the moment, but is toe touching already so its not bothering him to much. all being well in about 3 months he will be back to his old self, minus the limp!

glad to here hes on the mend.
thanks for the info. my vet said franks was a grade 1 , but after doing research i think its more a 2 or 3 . if he runs or turns sharp he will pick the leg up and wont use it , i can pop it back in agin and hes fine , but he tends to favor it and he is losing muscle mass in the leg . i t hurts me more to see this than it hurts him . im a bit anxious about the op, but i think its the only option . i will keep you posted on his progress . cheers..

by Guest Tue Apr 19 2011, 10:18

franki wrote:thanks for the info. my vet said franks was a grade 1 , but after doing research i think its more a 2 or 3 . if he runs or turns sharp he will pick the leg up and wont use it , i can pop it back in agin and hes fine , but he tends to favor it and he is losing muscle mass in the leg . i t hurts me more to see this than it hurts him . im a bit anxious about the op, but i think its the only option . i will keep you posted on his progress . cheers..

Poor Frank. I know the scar looks awful on Cairo, but it does heal well and the operation is pretty straightforward for vets. After a couple of weeks he'll be back to normal & you'll hardly know that he'd had an op in the first place!

by franki Wed Apr 20 2011, 10:34

Caryll wrote:
franki wrote:thanks for the info. my vet said franks was a grade 1 , but after doing research i think its more a 2 or 3 . if he runs or turns sharp he will pick the leg up and wont use it , i can pop it back in agin and hes fine , but he tends to favor it and he is losing muscle mass in the leg . i t hurts me more to see this than it hurts him . im a bit anxious about the op, but i think its the only option . i will keep you posted on his progress . cheers..

Poor Frank. I know the scar looks awful on Cairo, but it does heal well and the operation is pretty straightforward for vets. After a couple of weeks he'll be back to normal & you'll hardly know that he'd had an op in the first place!

thanx for the help , i had a couple of breeders say get him put down , hes our third staff and each time i was trying to inprove on the standard . paid heaps for him and hes pretty much what a stafford should be ,and now this.
a lot of breeders dont like him because hes blue and reckon blues inherit more genetic problems. in my opinion colour should be the last thing in the standard. and there is no way im getting him put down.... at wits end

by cairo Thu Apr 21 2011, 07:25

Bit of an update, he is putting more weight on the leg each day and getting better, although is bored! no running about is doing his head in. had a scare last night when i took him out for a wee, some blood in his urine, spoke to the vet straight away and this seems to be caused by the Metacam he has been taking for pain and to stop the swelling. Stopped the metacam straight away, this morning he is right as rain. Seems Metacam is the problem.

by Guest Thu Apr 21 2011, 11:59

franki wrote: thanx for the help , i had a couple of breeders say get him put down , hes our third staff and each time i was trying to inprove on the standard . paid heaps for him and hes pretty much what a stafford should be ,and now this.
a lot of breeders dont like him because hes blue and reckon blues inherit more genetic problems. in my opinion colour should be the last thing in the standard. and there is no way im getting him put down....

Well, that's really helpful advice from people who should know better! I would agree that he should never be bred from as the problem is hereditary, but pts? Why? With an operation he can live a long and active life free of discomfort. Surely that's the main thing?

I really don't understand some people - they treat dogs like a commodity, not like a flesh and blood companion! angry

by SkyBlue Tue Apr 26 2011, 22:49

Hi, my Staffy sky has grade 2-3 luxating patella. We got her last July from rescue and she had a slight limp so we got it checked out and the vet confirmed my suspicions! We discussed surgery but my previous dog a Dobermann, had recently been pts after surgery for cruciate ligament caused problems, long story Sad

!! so as you can imagine the thought of surgery was terrifying!! Anyway we put her on a supplement called Mobile Bones and its done wonders for her. She has no limp now and is just a little stiff on it after laying down for long periods of time. She manages to pop the patella back in herself and its not affecting her quality of life so at the moment we're plodding along.
Good to read about another dog who's had the op though, hope he continues to make good progress, he does look a little sorry for himself lol bless x

by Guest Tue Apr 26 2011, 22:53

Poor Sky, glad to hear that she has responded well to the supplements. Will she still need surgery at some point?

by SkyBlue Tue Apr 26 2011, 22:57

Hi, the vet thinks all the time she's doing as well as she is on the supplement then she thinks its not necessary. She did say its possible she could get arthritis in the joint when she's older though!! It's such a dilema for me after what we went though with our last dog, however Sky isn't limping and runs around absolutley fine so we'll just see how she goes Smile

by Guest Tue Apr 26 2011, 23:00

Fingers crossed! Big Grin

by cairo Thu Apr 28 2011, 10:41

bit of an update, he is now wandering about like nothing happened, if it wasnt for the still healing scar you wouldnt know anything was amiss with him.

by Guest Thu Apr 28 2011, 10:45

That's great news! When can you start exercising him again?

by cairo Thu Apr 28 2011, 13:35

he has a follow up at the vets today so we shall see what they have to say. he has been out on veru short walks in the last couple of days, just to the corner of the street and back.

by Guest Thu Apr 28 2011, 13:55

good luck at the vets today

by **janey** Thu Apr 28 2011, 14:12

Let us know how you get on x

by cairo Sat Apr 30 2011, 07:54

vet has said that he is going well but this part of the healing process is the most important, as he feels better but is still not fully healed so we really have to not let him run about for next 2-3 weeks, short lead walks still, follow up with vets in 2 weeks

by **janey** Sat Apr 30 2011, 08:43

cairo wrote:vet has said that he is going well but this part of the healing process is the most important, as he feels better but is still not fully healed so we really have to not let him run about for next 2-3 weeks, short lead walks still, follow up with vets in 2 weeks

You must be pulling your hair out!! At least its on the mend. x

by SkyBlue Sat Apr 30 2011, 09:57

Good to hear he's doing well Smile

by franki Sun May 01 2011, 07:32

cairo wrote:vet has said that he is going well but this part of the healing process is the most important, as he feels better but is still not fully healed so we really have to not let him run about for next 2-3 weeks, short lead walks still, follow up with vets in 2 weeks

glad to hear hes on the mend..
how do you keep him from running etc.
franki wont sit still for 5 mins thats my main concern about the surgery.

by cairo Sun May 01 2011, 07:48

Its difficult, but when we are not about he has to stay in his Crate, we have also put a stair gate up, and when we get on the couch he has to be lifted up, stairs and jumping on the furniture are the worst things for him at the moment

by ardvark Wed May 11 2011, 22:31

Hi, I know this is quite a while after your original post, but thought you and any others reading this might like to know, that our older staff who we lost at 12 1/2 years of age a couple of years ago had this too.

We got him as a 14 month old rescue (we think this was why he was in rescue but??). When he came to us we walked him at least twice a day with our 4 year old JRT depending our working pattern. Some times he'd limp sometimes he didn't there was no real pattern or squeels of pain but we took him to the vets and after x-ays etc. we were told he needed an op. to put a pin in his knee. We were insured thankfully as even 12 years ago it cost over £1,200! We had it done by a top orthopaedic vet, but he soon found out the pin was too loose so it had to be changed for a different size Rolling Eyes

Anyway trying to keep the damn dog off his leg was near on impossible, he was so bubbly and lively lol! He too had a terrible looking wound but you'd have never noticed the scar once the hair had grown back!! He, I would say made a full recovery fairly quickly and could tollerate alot of excercise (after time) well and never suffered with limps or arthritis and my husband would excercise him up to the 3 months before he died, (he was over the age of 12 by then) mountain biking with him through the woods! He was diagnosed with a bladder tumour and we opted to keep him home (in nappies!) until it was time for him to go.

Anyway despite all of his excersicing he never regained his muscle back totally on the 'bad' side and had a bit of a swing in his back leg with his gait iykwim? Also I have no idea whether it's relevant and if the longer legged staffs suffer more but he was a taller, longer and bow legged staff. Good luck with your staff I'm sure a full recovery will be made, how is he taking things now? Big Grin

by cairo Thu May 12 2011, 18:32

Last Check up at the vets Today !
All clear and time to start building the leg back up, vets delighted with his progress and we have just had a 15 minute lead walk and all went well

by **janey** Thu May 12 2011, 19:10

Great news x

by Guest Thu May 12 2011, 21:13

Brilliant - sounds like things are going well.

by **youngkaiser** Thu May 12 2011, 21:43

Great news glad he is better and doing well

by Bell Bell Wed Jul 27 2011, 16:38

cairo wrote:Last Check up at the vets Today !
All clear and time to start building the leg back up, vets delighted with his progress and we have just had a 15 minute lead walk and all went well

Hi, I have a 2 year old blue called Bella and i've an appointment with the vet tomorrow night as she has the exact same problem as discribed with Cairo.

Firstly I am so happy that Cairo is back up and running around...Great News, what's the latest with him??

Can I ask how many tests or x-rays they completed with Cairo before suggesting an operation??

My wife and I are totally novices with this as our last sbt didn't have any aliments like this.

Bella is covered by full pet insurance so cost isn't a issue.

I have a post on at the moment asking for advice about her lame leg.

Many Thanks Smile

by cairo Wed Jul 27 2011, 19:10

Vet knew straight away what it was, it was just a case of finding how bad it was, they took him in, Xray confirmed it so they operated same day so he didnt have to undergo being knocked out twice.

He is fine now, apart from the scar you wouldnt know anything had happened. Best thing we could have done for him in my opinion, he is a lot happier now

by Bell Bell Fri Jul 29 2011, 14:30

Excellent thank you.

I went to the vets yesterday and although they couldn't say straight away what it is, she is booked in for x-rays next Thursday to ascertain the problem.

I doubt my vets will operate same day, but if that's what it calls for then so be it.

Thanks again....

by cairo Fri Jul 29 2011, 19:49

No probs, i know exactly how you feel, i was so worried but the vets were great and it really has made a huge difference. the hardest part is the recuperation period, Cairo was not allowed to climb furniture, stairs or basically do owt for couple of months then we just built it back up, progressively longer walks etc. he now moves faster than he ever did lol he can shift when there is a ball involved !

by kellenny Sun Aug 28 2011, 20:23

Hi, How is Cairo now?
I am getting a bit worried about Sandi and was hoping for some advice. For the past week, she has been limping on her rear right leg. However, it is only when she gets up after lying down for a while. If she tries to climb the stairs she is very slow at the moment. She usually runs as fast as she can. Once she has taken a few steps her leg seems to be fine. She doesn't seem to be in pain when we touch it and move it either. When we are out on walks she still runs around like usual, really fast and chases her ball. It is just when she has been resting that the limping starts. Is this what Cairo's symptoms were like? I think we are going to take her to the vets next week anyway as it doesn't seem to be getting better. The problem is I know she will not be limping when we are there! She is only young and I am a bit worried. We have insurance so at least we will be covered if she does need an operation. How is Cairo's scar looking now? Got any recent pics?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kelly

by **gem** Sun Aug 28 2011, 22:29

Awww hope everything is okay Smile

by cairo Mon Aug 29 2011, 07:30

HI Kellenny

The syptoms you have described do sound like what we went through. Dont worry about your dog not limping when you get to the vets, our vet manually popped the knee out when we got there and i described what was going on, he then showed me how to manually pop it back in while we waited for the op. When your dog starts limping have a feel around the knee, you will probably feel it has popped out, although i dont recommend popping it back in yourself! Cai is doing great now, its made such a difference to his qualiity of life! here is a couple of pics, one you can see the scar, the other he just looks cute ! lol

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by Guest Mon Aug 29 2011, 10:04

I would think that the worst thing is keeping them quiet after the operation! Big Grin

by kellenny Mon Aug 29 2011, 15:50

Aww Cairo looks lovely! The scar is not as bad as I thought it would be either. We will take Sandi to the vets this week and see what is going on. Thanks for your help! Not looking forward to the recuperation if she has to have an op, she will go crazy!

by cairo Mon Aug 29 2011, 16:49

Keeping him off the couch and away from stairs is the hardest part! his recuperation is finished now, which he proved earlier by jumping a 4 foot wall !!!

by KellyH Thu Jun 06 2013, 21:35

My 7 month old, Maddie had the surgery yesterday to correct a grade 4 medial patella luxation.

She looked really sorry for herself when I brought her home this morning.
Luxating Patella Maddie1_zpsb88e4059

Her scar's looking nice and neat and clean, considering the extensive surgery she had to have. Plus she's luckily not licking it or paying it any attention at the moment, which is good.
Luxating Patella Maddie2_zps5ed202ad

I was worried that she may not be able to lead a full and active life.
Reading your post has really helped to put my mind at rest a bit. Smile

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