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Post by Jackieb on Fri Aug 31 2012, 13:03

So I'm thinkin of buying a head collar for Diesel as she pulls like a truck !

Can anyone recommend one ?

Do they work ?

Ive seen this comfy looking one on eBay, what do u think ?



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Or do I go with a gentle leader ?

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 31 2012, 13:48

I've never used one, so I can't personally recommend any, but the GSD folk on another forum often swear by the gencon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gencon

I think if I used a head collar I'd always have a collar on as well & a double-ended lead - just in case! Big Grin

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 31 2012, 13:55

never used one but i would recommend you go to a shop and fit one cause staffies have a odd shaped face and seem to be able to get off head collars easy.

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 31 2012, 14:29

Dogmatic every time for me! If it can hold chance it will certainly hold a staffy Smile

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Post by Kathy on Fri Aug 31 2012, 14:34

I have tried the Canny Collar with Rocky with some success.
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Post by Cyril baby on Fri Aug 31 2012, 17:02

The best way to stop a dog from pulling is to teach them not to, no gadge will stop them pulling but will give you more control if used properly.

If you use a headcollar on your dog you also need 2 leads or a double ended lead, once clipped to the head collar and the other to a harness or collar, harness is preferred. You walk your dog on the harness/collar and only use the headcollar when it is needed.

It is dangerous to walk a dog just on a headcollar, a friend saw a Dalmation break his neck leaping about on one, if the owner had another lead clipped to a harness the dog wouldn't have been able to leap around so much.

A head collar controls the head, it leaves the body to please it self and that can mean leaping about. If an extending lead is clipped to the headcollar the dog can seriously injure their neck or break it if fhe races to the end, the sudden stop at the end does the damage.

A harness controls the body so gives the owner more control especially if there is a headcollar controling the head as well. A lead clipped to the collar only controls the neck, the body is still able to leap about a bit.
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Post by Jackieb on Fri Aug 31 2012, 17:14

I've ordered a gencon with lead/collar clip which will clip onto her regular collar or harness.

I'm aware of the dangers or head collars etc but can't carry on as she is cause quite frankly she will injure me !

She will walk perfectly after a run, but she's so full on super excited when we go out I want more control.

I have a nice 30ft long line that I will use with her collar only.
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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 31 2012, 17:37

don't use a long line on either a head collar or normal flat collar. They should only ever be put on a harness to many accidents and injuries have happened

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Post by Cyril baby on Fri Aug 31 2012, 18:03

As Ella said, long lines clipped to a collar is dangerous, dogs can get really fast in a short distance, he its the end of the long line and will damage his neck, it needs to be on a harness for safety. Even pulling on a collar can do a lot of damage to a dog's neck, dogs have been known to pass out because they have cut their own air supply off by pulling on a collar.

This is what happened to a dog that came as a foster girl for 10 days and stayed, my vet suspects it was collar damage as well as a long soft pallet. http://tracheotomy-in-dogs.yolasite.com/
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Post by munschk on Fri Aug 31 2012, 19:44

Have you thought about a harness with the clip located at the front on the chest? As everyone has already mentioned, the training will be key, regardless of which device you go for.
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Post by Jackieb on Fri Aug 31 2012, 20:10

Yea I'm gonna get her a nice fleece padded harness, and use the gencon head collar.

Thx for your advice all xx much appreciated.
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Post by SeveredLimb1 on Sat Sep 01 2012, 10:15

We bought a control harness from pets at home, and I have to admit it was an absolute God send. My dog Rudy is fine on the lead but when the whole family go for a walk his instincts kick in and he tries pulling out in front to lead the way, and when he pulls boy oh boy do you feel it!! The one we bought needs a specific collar (unfortunately sold separate) but all together well worth the money spent. I highly recommend these products based on results with my dog but definately go into the store and take your dog, the staff are very helpful and will help fit it to your dogs size as a poorly adjusted one can lead to rubbing under the eyes. Rudy took about 10 minutes to get used to it but then was a completely different dog when walking. He doesn't need it any more as he has learned not to pull.


http://www.petsathome.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10551&pag=1&freeText=Harness&rpp=60&langId=-1&catalogId=10601

http://www.petsathome.com/shop/control-head-collar-for-dogs-by-pets-at-home-14479?cm_re=barilliance-_-cross%20sell-_-product%20details
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Post by Kazbp on Mon Sep 24 2012, 14:50

Canny Collar works well with my staff,
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Post by Jackieb on Mon Sep 24 2012, 17:25

Ended up gettin a gencon head collar which she won't move in, soon as it's on she's rooted to the spot and I can't move her !

Had a chat with hubby and told him he needs to take more responsibility with walking Diesel as she's super strong, and believe it or not she will walk like a dream with him, whereas with me I end up stressed and arm ache !

So we have a deal now, I walk Tank who has been perfect from day 1 and hubby walks Diesel... As for the Gencon head collar... It's been shelved and mat end up on eBay lol x
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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 25 2012, 06:17

I use the gentle leader on Charlie. He hated it at first but now gets excited when I get it out cos he knows it means he's going out.

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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 25 2012, 13:18

You do no you can't just put a headcollar on and go out for a walk, you have to desensitise them to it the same as a muzzle

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