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Post by Johnbelfast Mon Jul 02 2012, 23:09

Ive had my 6 month old staffy bud since he was six weeks, hes a very social dog and as well trained as a 6 month old can be he never bites or goes inside the house. We decided to get another puppie while hes still young as a companion for bud which i still think is a great idea tho the wee man is quite fiesty lol.
Hes only six weeks old and he does most of the biting and hanging off of bud which encourages buds rough play,I find myself spending most of the day breaking up some sort of scuffle between the two there isnt alway yelping from the wee man mostly because i step in before it gets to rough. Ive only had him three days and i was expecting some rough and tumble from the two but its pretty frequent. Hoping by bringing them up together it means they begin to calm down around eachother i give both puppies equal amounts of attention so as not to make the other one jealous if anything bud gets a little more from me cause hes my first pup. since we have just got but going outside from the newspaper in the coner we decided to just bypass the newspaper stage and stick the wee one out on the step. So there has been so cleaning up done in the last couple of days after the younest but it seems bud has took a step backwards in his house training occassionaly going inside even on the settee.

Hoping things calm down any tips And advice is welcome cheers excuse my spelling im on my iphone and rushing atm
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Post by Galadriel Tue Jul 03 2012, 07:30

Wow, you've got your work cut out!

It's not usually recommended to get another pup until your current dog is at least 18 months.

Just wondering why you've had your pups from 6 weeks? Also surprised that a breeder has allowed you to have a male pup when you already have one; I know some breeders who won't allow a male pup to be homed in a house where there is already even a grown male (who's temperament is proven) as same sex agression is quite common in the breed and as your 6 month old hasn't reached sexual maturity you don't know how he'll be towards other males yet let alone how the new addition will be.

I don't mean to put a downer on things here, guess what I'm trying to do us make you aware of what you've taken on. You're going to have to work three times as hard to ensure both dogs mature into well behaved and socialised individuals and even then there is a good chance they will turn against eachother once they reach sexual maturity.

What will you do then if it happens and they can't be in the same room together? If you don't know how you'll cope then it maybe a good idea to think about taking the pup back to the breeder now while he's still young enough to have a pretty much 100% chance of getting another home instead of 18 months down the line when he won't be so easy to rehome if you can't cope.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 11:08

Can't add too much to that, I'm afraid. Six weeks old is far too young for a pup to leave its siblings. Sad

You've taken on a huge responsibility with having two males in the same flat. Will the dogs be seperated when you're out? I would strongly advise it. I know that there are owners who have two males together & don't have a problem, but they are the exception rather than the rule.

All you'd need is a game to go wrong (jealousy over a toy/a nip that hurt a bit too much) and you could have a full-on fight with nobody there to stop it. Carnage. I dont want to s

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 11:21

I would also strongly advise you to keep them seperated if they are not going to be supervised. Two males can coexist but it will be difficult with ones that young

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Post by Johnbelfast Tue Jul 03 2012, 12:15

thanks alot i had thought it was going to be hard and i am prepared too work overtime to make sure they get along. Ive never left the boys on their own in the flat as ive been unsure whether a fight would break out, and as im thinking of letting them sleep in seperate rooms or somthing along thoses lines i dont want to distance one pup from the other, after all its not all doom and gloom they can get along here and there. being assigned a room each to sleep might encourge a fight or two over territory.

hope someone has a postive experience i can draw from because i am very reluctant to give up any of my boys their great dogs.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 12:36

Have you the room to have two crates? Then you could crate them at night/when you're out and they'd still be in the same room.

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Post by Johnbelfast Tue Jul 03 2012, 12:56

No not atm crates have crossed my mind, ive tryd putting the wee one in his carry case if they get to carryed away tho he hates it and im sure bud wouldnt take to kindly to the idea. When is too late to start them in the crate at nights? Buds always just had free roam of the living room and kithecn at nights so a crate could be abit stressing id think No? Im sure he need to get used to it its better than waking up to injury or worse i suppose.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 13:03

If you've got two crates, just set them up (with their bedding in them) wherever you want them to stay & just leave them open. Put some treats or favourite toys/stag bars in them to encourage them in.

Once they'll go in on their own for a lie down, you can shut the door for a couple of minutes, then gradually increase the time.

Covering three sides of a crate to make it more cosy & den-like can help a lot. I use an old strong curtain.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 13:05

Crates would be a good idea as long as you take it slowly. It gives them each a safe place of their own to go.

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Post by Gazagem Tue Jul 03 2012, 13:10

Both mine are crated when we are out and as long as you make them comfy and good places to be you should have no trouble
As for having 2 males a friend had 2 males with no problems until he looked after a female and although they were all neutered the boys got into a bad fight and couldn't be in the same room again. My friend had to rehome one of the boys but he went to live with with the female (so I don't think he minded lol) but they all get on well when they go for a walk together so there is hope (the boys are 4 and 5)
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Post by Galadriel Tue Jul 03 2012, 13:50

It's never too late to train them to go in a crate, you just have to do it slowly and make it the best place to be for them.

Don't shut the door until they're 100% happy about being in there.

Feed all treats, breakfast, dinner, bones etc. in there and make it nice and comfy. A good trick to get them to go in if they're reluctant at first is to get something they really want like a bully/pizzle stick, put it in the crates and shut the door with both dogs on the outside. Wait a few minutes until they're going mad trying to get in, open the doors then leave them to settle with their chews inside the crate with the doors open.

Maybe do it one at a time at first or get someone to help you Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 16:36

Both of mine are crated as well, and they are both males. I've never had a problem between the pair of them.....Chance was crate trained at 18 months and took to it fine

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Post by Johnbelfast Tue Jul 03 2012, 17:11

No not atm crates have crossed my mind, ive tryd putting the wee one in his carry case if they get to carryed away tho he hates it and im sure bud wouldnt take to kindly to the idea. When is too late to start them in the crate at nights? Buds always just had free roam of the living room and kithecn at nights so a crate could be abit stressing id think No? Im sure he need to get used to it its better than waking up to injury or worse i suppose.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 03 2012, 18:01

There is no time limit at all for using crates.

If you want them to use it, then they do sorry it's not up to them. Just get the used to it whether they want to or not they will accept it in the end.

I will say when we aren't working nights my two have free roam of the hous

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