Ok guy's now I think I might need a little help

Following an incident mentioned the other day which I posted up..

Quick recap...

Chloe had been eating tuna and Blake smelt it on her, he started jumping and licking her face, she growled and chased him which is normal I think. However she then went on to eat his puppy food.. They have separate foods, him puppy in the kitchen, her adult in the hall... Both foods are down all the time and topped up when required, the same with water

This morning we got both doggies up as normal Blake went to his puppy food and began eating it, Chloe then went to Blake's puppy food and growled to chase him.... The food bowls are placed against a wall, and he could not get away, Chloe then growled and snarled.... Blake ran through his water and sat trembling. He now has a small cut on his cheek.. We were in kitchen at the time it all happened really quickly..

Not sure if this cut is a bite, scratch or he has caught his bowls or the walls in panic... Chloe was given a real telling off, and given time out..When she was allowed to remix with the family she checked him over..

Any advice guys don't want this getting out of hand... Cheers

Firstly i don't leave food down all day if its not eaten in 10mins its taken away till next feed they soon learn to eat it when its down on the floor.
Keep them separate until you take the bowls away then you won't get food aggression
try it hope it helps

Thing is Marty, Chloe is very picky with her food... We have tried every brand available and she only eats any moist bits in it and leaves the rest, then returns to it later when she realises its all she's getting...

Can anyone recommend a food she WILL eat?

we had loads problems wth ace eating food bu he now has tinned food and mixer added in and eat's his food no problems and its gone in 5mins where as b4 he'd never eaten a whole meal.

Lola is on and off her food quite a bit, but I would never leave it down all day. They will learn that it is breakfast, dinner or tea time and eat it or leave it. I have never been a fan of self feeding cause of the heat, flies, there is no schedule, you cannot monitor their bowel movements etc etc

Picky or not picky a dog will soon eat at a given time, it's all about being consistent, and also would prevent each dog eating each others food, like Marty said, 10 mins down, then taken away, that way you could stand and monitor them for 10 mins, but with food down all the time you don't know who's eaten what and with an 8 week old puppy that needs all the food he can get while growing.

You might find she's being a picky eater because she can be, like louise has said stick to a routine at feeding times and stick to a food a dog won't starve its self a couple of days she'll realise the food goes away and she'll eat it all moist or not

Ok guy's will try this from today....

Any idea's on what to do with toys, balls etc...

We have bought them both new toy's, she already has hundreds of toy's

We bought her a new ball, and him a puppy ball..... She wants them ALL, and growls if he goes near them

It sound like Chloe is still getting used of having Blake around and is showing signs of dominance to establish she's number 1 in the house, i expect once you can walk them together it should improve but others on here will be able to advice you better than me on this issue but there only just new to each other so there is bound to be a settling in period

Other than when Kita was really young and on her own, she has had her food offered to her at specific times as I worked shift work and needed to know she had eaten before I went to work. When her original partner in crime was home with my (now ex) they were fed breakfast and dinner and learned that if you don't eat it then you will go hungry, not easy for me as she was quite picky.
Years later (she was 6yrs at this point) I met my (now) hubby who had a 1yr old JRT (Max) who was used to "grazing" all day long. Max had to learn that if he didn't eat his food when it was put down Kita would. We then started doing "yard duty" and one of us stood by while they ate and stopped Kita from pushing him out of the way once she had finished. Max didn't try and stop her, (but I also worked out that he knew she would get in trouble if she tried stealing his food) and played his own little game, so if he played with his food I put it up out of either of their reach and he had to wait till later or go without.
It took a lot of time, effort and frustration but eventually I could feed them both at the same time (with the BBQ in between) and they both ate their own meal.
When Izzy came along last year at the age of 9 weeks, Kita was 13yrs and so the cycle began again. Izzy is much bigger than Kita and steals her ball (only thing she plays with these days) and we are back doing "yard duty" with eating Over the last month I have noted a huge improvement and I seriously think in the long run they will adapt to the behaviour that we allow or the behaviour that we teach.
Apologies for the long reply but I think you may have to change their eating habits to achieve harmony, which will remind one and teach the other their are rules and expectations that have to be learned.
Good luck

It definitely sounds as if Chloe is asserting her dominance over poor little Blake. If you correct her each time she does something like that, she'll soon come to realise that you are the boss and not her. The good thing is, Blake is very young and so won't challenge her for it so hopefully it won't turn into world war three between them!

Marty wrote:Firstly i don't leave food down all day if its not eaten in 10mins its taken away till next feed they soon learn to eat it when its down on the floor.
Keep them separate until you take the bowls away then you won't get food aggression
try it hope it helps

chloexxx wrote:Thing is Marty, Chloe is very picky with her food... We have tried every brand available and she only eats any moist bits in it and leaves the rest, then returns to it later when she realises its all she's getting...

Can anyone recommend a food she WILL eat?

I would feed seperately, or at least far enough apart so that you can stand in between and stop any poaching before it starts. You will have to be firm because it will become a habit which can lead to food aggression.

I've never left food down all day, it promotes fussiness because the dog can eat when it likes & what it likes. Put the food down and if it isn't eaten within 10 minutes take it away & feed fresh the next meal (don't put down the old food, a lot of dogs won't eat old food). I know it sounds wasteful, but after a short while both dogs will realise that the food will be taken away & will eat it there and then.

With toys, I would just correct every time she tries to take a toy that he is playing with. Don't make the mistake of thinking she knows which toys are hers and which toys are his - if they are there, then they belong to both! Just make sure that she knows not to take things away from him, and vice versa.

Thank you all.... Your advice is invaluable !!

We have put both dogs dinners down, same food Wainwrights duck adult for Chloe and the same for Blake in pup version, she sniffed and refused so tried adding warm water..... She's had 5/6 chunks and left it.... So we have took it away, he's devoured most..... Lets see...

Do we need to remove water also, thing is I do believe water should always be available ..

Try your advice regarding toys, will update when hubby's been on floor for play time lol

Water should always be available i'm sure you'll see results soon

We only had one bucket of water between them up till our big move interstate last October. Now we have a water bucket and water bowl which they both share as there are no issues

shontelle wrote:It definitely sounds as if Chloe is asserting her dominance over poor little Blake. If you correct her each time she does something like that, she'll soon come to realise that you are the boss and not her. The good thing is, Blake is very young and so won't challenge her for it so hopefully it won't turn into world war three between them!

+1.

if you have two water bowls, even if they only use one, it gives them the option to have there own, which can prevent any possible "fights/arguments" between dogs.

Got two water bowls, been okay so far...

Both asleep on the couch ATM, got to sit in the middle cos if Blake gets too close she grumbles and warns him

Mazda was a bit funny with Zero & food for first few months so ive always fed seperate (still do just incase) he is fussy as fussy gets ive tried soooo many foods but he still gets the (like others have said) 10mins or loose it, he still wouldnt eat but I refused to back down and leave it (mainly cos ive seen what Mazda can do to another dog over food and she's a pig she got a 15kg sack once and attempted the entire bag ) ive now put him on Royal Canin he loves it, its expensive dont get me wrong £25 for 4kg (but found it £18 online) but if she dont eat it they do a money back so trying it u cant loose. and now they both eat within seconds, bowls taken up.
She also tried the sofa/dog bed growling to after a few good tellings off she's accepted I can handle this house and we have peace

My girl has always been a fussy eater she has kibble (james well beloved) and I always cook a small amount of meat (mince,liver,fish,chicken,tuna,sardines) when cooked I add meat and the stock softens the kibble and she eats the lott if I put it down dry she would walk away. Now the dog will eat anything whole, dead, alive if it fits in his gob hes eating it and hes the dominant one of the 2. I put the bowls down at each end of the kitchen and they eat there own and if he tried to go over to hers I would stop him. As the others have said 10 mins and the food gets taken away.
She in her own way is teaching the puppy when she growls at him that shes not happy and he will learn her mood but you need to be wary to stop any conflics before they happen its all part of learning but youll get there

so guys so I get this right from the start...... If he jumps at her face or gets too close to her, do I correct her for grumbling or him, or do I allow her to tell him off ?

Food I have took your advice, tho Chloe hasn't eaten much on the new routine.. Toy's and treats though not shared yet, Chloe is improving a little bit.

This morn Chloe got up late sniffed at Blake with her heckles already up, told her gentle and she walked off. To be fair to Chloe she is ignoring him more then anything, but if he goes near her she grumbles

I would give him a gentle correction when he bugs her so that she doesn't have to, that way she'll see that you are in control of the situation. I certainly wouldn't have her going up to him with raised hackles for no reason. She needs to understand that you are the boss and can handle it.

Okay just booked a behaviourist for both dogs... They are coming in to look at both dogs together. Blake is starting puppy classes 29th June after jabs are done. Chloe is going to dog borstal to sort out her issues with other dogs and she is going to agility school

Sounds great! Hopefully it'll all be sorted soon

chloexxx wrote:Okay just booked a behaviourist for both dogs... They are coming in to look at both dogs together. Blake is starting puppy classes 29th June after jabs are done. Chloe is going to dog borstal to sort out her issues with other dogs and she is going to agility school

hope it works, let us know what the behaviourist says, when are they coming to see

She's going to ring me with an appointment when she gets to her diary.. She says Chloe is displaying normal bitch behaviour... She thinks the problem is Blake not listening to Chloe's warnings and then having to be growled at

Told her about Chloe's aggression with other dogs, sometimes if another dog approaches her or looks at her wrong she gets nasty, not all dogs and not all the time. So Chloes going to dog borstal, apparently they introduce her to dogs on leads then slowly remove the leads under controlled conditions..

She said agility class will focus her, and also mix her with dogs

good luck and let us know what happens

Yea let us no how she gets on....ive always fancied agility with Ty, i dont think kaos would be very good, hes not the most agile of dogs lmao! x