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Post by Pebbles Wed Oct 30 2013, 17:27

Have had Pebbles since she was 9 weeks old and have done some basic training with her which she quickly mastered.
But lately she seems to have a deaf ear to what we want from her. She refuses to sit even for a treat, she keeps jumping up and nips at our hands even though we have worked towards stopping this behaviour, she tries jumping on the couch knowing full well she has never been allowed to do so....ect

When we are outside she pulls like a train when she has seen something she wants to go to , she jumps up at people and pees on their shoes.... today at the vet she was so awfully excitable that i almost felt ashamed. Her behaviour was as she has never heard a sit in her life and as if i never takes her out anywhere. Surprised 

She gets two walks a day, the morning walk included a good run in the park, she has been well socialised with other dogs and people from the start, she is on Arden grange dry food.

She is turning into a monster despite our best efforts to train her and teach her some manners. Not sure what is going on...Sad
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 30 2013, 18:54

Sounds like she is going through one of those see how far she can push you stages. Keep at what you are doing it will get better stand your ground and be firm but fair.
How long are her walks each day? Smile 

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Post by Guest Wed Oct 30 2013, 19:07

Agree with inez ^^^ she sounds like she's pushing boundaries, stick with what your doing she will realise it's not acceptable soon enough Smile

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Post by Pebbles Thu Oct 31 2013, 11:14

Thanks for replies. I'm hoping this will pass, to be honest i wasn't quite prepared for all the work a puppy needs. At times i wonder if it would have been easier to get an older dog... frustrated 
Of course we love to bits but it is hard work at times and i have days when i despair that we'll ever have a well behaved dog.

To answer the question about the walks. She gets about 30 mins in the morning, on and off the lead at different parks. And about 20 to 30 mins in the evening mostly walking round the neighbourhood.
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 31 2013, 11:19

Things will improve I remember thinking of pulling my hair out at times, but with persistence and routine it did pay off.
With the walks perhaps another walk at lunch time if poss and some mental stimulation such as hide and seek and training. Big Grin 

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Post by Guest Thu Oct 31 2013, 11:20

She's pushing you! Go right back to basics as though you're training her right from the start! Don't expect her to know anything. That Way, your expectations will start from scratch & she can't fail, which will improve her confidence and your patience.Big Grin 

If at any time she fails, go back a stage so that she succeeds.

All of the training should start from scratch - the lead walking, the nipping, the jumping up, the recall, everything. You'll be surprised how quickly she'll start to catch on again.

Try giving several short training sessions a day, just 5 minutes or so, and plenty of interractive play as well - seek, fetch etc.

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Post by Pebbles Thu Oct 31 2013, 11:32

Cheers for the advice and the moral support Smile  It feels good to hear...well read that it is a phase.
Will go back to basics with the training to see if that helps.
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 31 2013, 11:38

It will do!

And if you get any setbacks, come on here & have a damn good rant!Laughing 

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Post by gazj84 Tue Nov 05 2013, 10:11

cisco is about the same age and yes i know exactly what you are going through just keep at it also another good tip for when it comes to walks if pebbles pulls a little to much on the lead i found this worjks with cisco and other dogs i have helped train (as i love dogs i will willing walk them for people) if they pull on there lead i keep it short and once they pull i lift there front end up with the lead its only for a split second and tell them slow down or walk nicely then quickly follow it up with a praise once they slow down.
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Post by Kathy Tue Nov 05 2013, 10:26

Agree with those above it's just a phase and will pass I'm sure. Keep up with the basic training, a little each day, and one day things will just click into place.
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 05 2013, 10:29

gazj84 wrote: if they pull on there lead i keep it short and once they pull i lift there front end up with the lead its only for a split second and tell them slow down or walk nicely then quickly follow it up with a praise once they slow down.
Please don't do that. It doesn't matter if it's a split second or not, you could do damage to the dog's throat.

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Post by stella Tue Nov 05 2013, 10:55

agree with all the good advise you have been given,i can remember when sash was going through this stage,it was a nightmare and we thought what had we let our selves in for with this little monster running round like a lunatic destroying things,biting us and not listening to a word we said Rolling Eyes but kept up the training and she came good just like pebbles will Smile 
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Post by gazj84 Tue Nov 05 2013, 11:02

Caryll wrote:
gazj84 wrote: if they pull on there lead i keep it short and once they pull i lift there front end up with the lead its only for a split second and tell them slow down or walk nicely then quickly follow it up with a praise once they slow down.
Please don't do that. It doesn't matter if it's a split second or not, you could do damage to the dog's throat.
sorry i should of stated walkin on a harness i wont walk any dog with a lead and collar cos like you say the dogs throat


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Post by Guest Tue Nov 05 2013, 11:52

But why pull the dog off its front feet? There are much kinder ways.

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Post by gazj84 Wed Nov 06 2013, 10:30

do it how ever you want its your dog and if you think its cruel to let a dog support its weight with the harness then you seriously know jack the emergency mountain rescue airlift dogs all the time and what do you think they use? yes a harness! the dog puts more pressure on the harness by pulling then you do by lifting its front legs afew millimeters of the floor for a split second and if you yank the lead then yes i agree its not nice but i said lift not yank and if the harness does hurt the dog then its the harness at fault and you should measure your dog correctly and byuy a supporting harness not the cheapest one you can find and allways make sure its padded how would you like leather rubbing your skin or nylon if its nylon


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Post by Guest Wed Nov 06 2013, 10:51

gazj84 wrote:do it how ever you want its your dog and if you think its cruel to let a dog support its weight with the harness then you seriously know jack the emergency mountain rescue airlift dogs all the time and what do you think they use? yes a harness! the dog puts more pressure on the harness by pulling then you do by lifting its front legs afew millimeters of the floor for a split second and if you yank the lead then yes i agree its not nice but i said lift not yank and if the harness does hurt the dog then its the harness at fault and you should measure your dog correctly and byuy a supporting harness not the cheapest one you can find and allways make sure its padded how would you like leather rubbing your skin or nylon if its nylon


Please don't be rude. I didn't say you were being cruel, just that there were kinder ways..

The emergency services use a special harness which distributes the weight evenly. Most ordinary dog harnesses don't do that.

Also, nobody has said that they use a harness that's rubbing/making the skin sore. Please check your facts before accusing.

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