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Post by karlsblue Mon Oct 29 2012, 17:09

baught a bag before while i was their picking up some more dog food, is this stuff any good or is it rubbish and can i give it to my dog aswell as its dry food?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 17:11

No expert at raw feeding but think generally best is one or the other , though some people do mix

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Post by karlsblue Mon Oct 29 2012, 17:16

hmmmm now i dont no what to do i baught it thinking maybe it would be good to mix in, is a raw diet better than dried dog food or do they work as good as one and other ?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 17:23

Well i'm a raw feeder, so i'm biased and will always say that raw is better then kibble!

If you want to feed some raw along with kibble instead of a whole raw diet. feed a meal of one and a meal of the other.

So for breakfast give raw and a tea of kibble.

If he's never had raw meat before it's best to start with chicken as it's a bland protein and easy for the stomach to digest. Keep the beef you have bought though for a later date Smile

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Post by karlsblue Mon Oct 29 2012, 19:21

fair enough atleast your honest and admit ur bias towards raw Smile so what amount do i feed my dog?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 19:24

how much dry are you feeding? if you want to do a meal of raw half the amount of kibble and make it up with the raw meal and go from there

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Post by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 19:35

Can't add to that, exept to say that some of the frozen bags of raw 'beef' contain heart & tongue. Nothing wrong in that, but heart is quite a rich meat & too much can give a dog a touch of bum gravy & tongue is as tough as old boot so some dogs don't like it much.

Dempsey loves tongue - he would, he has no brain to think about it! Laughing

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Post by karlsblue Mon Oct 29 2012, 20:19

feeding kibble as it says on the packet 325g split into 3 seperate portions so 100g per feed and the 25g left over is used as treats for training Smile were do i start on this raw diet thing?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 29 2012, 20:27

If you want to feed a raw diet have a look at these links for some help

https://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/t14787-raw-diet

www.preymodelraw.com

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Post by karlsblue Tue Oct 30 2012, 20:28

well i went ahead and give the pup some raw beef this morning and to say it enjoyed it would be an understatement, iv never seen his bowl so clean afterwards he licked it clean Laughing he must like this raw stuff ey Smile
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 30 2012, 20:40

Most of them do, although some can take a short while to get used to it.

I've never known a raw fed dog get fed up with his food! Big Grin

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Post by karlsblue Tue Oct 30 2012, 20:52

what other raw is good like liver, heart.... ? and if they have any specific benefits?
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 30 2012, 20:56

If you feed raw then you have to include a little offal in the feeding regime (liver, kidneys, spleen - not heart as that's muscle meat, not offal). They don't need much, just a little bit a couple of times a week.

Heart's good, but as I said it's quite rich so not an every day food. Tripe (green) is excellent but inclined to put weight on a dog!

Other than that, any raw meat is good. When you're just starting, though, stick to one protein source for a month, then gradually introduce another & build your dog up to all meat types.

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Post by karlsblue Tue Oct 30 2012, 21:05

i shall try some of this out soon, and has it been proven that tripe puts weight on your dog or is it just aloud of bluff
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 30 2012, 22:22

Tripe has very little fat and calories in it.

It puts weight on dogs as they very rarely turn it down, so people feed it alot to dogs and therefore they put weight on Wink

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 30 2012, 22:25

They do like it! Big Grin Dempsey would eat it all day, every day if he could!

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 30 2012, 22:35

I think most dogs would Laughing

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Post by karlsblue Wed Oct 31 2012, 00:23

so is tripe a daily thing or weekly thing, also is it a good thing to make the dog stockier is that the right word to use. and caryll nice ebt you have looking to get one of these myself Smile
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Post by gem Wed Oct 31 2012, 00:39

karlsblue wrote:so is tripe a daily thing or weekly thing, also is it a good thing to make the dog stockier is that the right word to use. and caryll nice ebt you have looking to get one of these myself Smile
Hi ive always been lead to beleived that no amount of food or feeding will change your dogs physical structure its genetic make up is the end product of development, you can tweak it slightly to balance the dog best you can. A good diet is the best way to go for a developing puppy there is no way you can make the dog grow a bigger head, longer legs, bigger chest by giving more food or better quality food just get a fatty belly. Smile
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 31 2012, 09:13

karlsblue wrote:so is tripe a daily thing or weekly thing, also is it a good thing to make the dog stockier is that the right word to use.

Tripe can be given daily, there's no problem with that, although a varied diet is much better. As gem says, no food on its own will change the genetic make up of your dog. If it has a genetically big head or a genetically deep/wide chest, then that will happen no matter what food you give. The difference is that a healthy dog, on the best possible food, will be in better 'shape'. Its coat will shine more, it will have stamina & energy.

But even with good food, a dog won't realise its full potential without the correct amounts of exercise, play, love & companionship! Love Struck

karlsblue wrote: and caryll nice ebt you have looking to get one of these myself Smile

Thank you! But don't be fooled...he's thick as two short planks & an absolute b*gger when he wants to be! Laughing

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Post by karlsblue Wed Oct 31 2012, 13:12

caryll your EBT is a beauty, iv heard their u bugger when breeding though they need a lot of help so iv heard Smile
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 31 2012, 13:53

karlsblue wrote:caryll your EBT is a beauty, iv heard their u bugger when breeding though they need a lot of help so iv heard Smile

No, not really. Depends if your dog has been health tested & is fit & well.

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Post by kenzi-APBT Mon Nov 05 2012, 11:02

karlsblue wrote:caryll your EBT is a beauty, iv heard their u bugger when breeding though they need a lot of help so iv heard Smile

EBT are know to have a lac of intellegence so to speck, they are not the brainiest breed of dog. when breeding them the amount of milk the pups have from their mother can cause the mother to have a calcium difficency, which can cause them to be snappy an they can turn on their pups an kill them, also EBT are clumsy and can end up smothercateing their pups not intencialy but it can happen. ive know people who breed this type of dog has a hobbie and they say they are not the easyiest dog to breed as they need monitoring regualy while the pups are young and they need help to deliver the pups, with their long snout they cannot see fully infront off it and as it requires them to use their front teeth to rip the bag an cut the cored they can end up biteing the pup and killing it. if you was thinking about breeding this dog i would advise you do your research thumbs up
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