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Post by Susan McNaughton on Wed Oct 24 2018, 20:25

Looking for a bit of help please folks! My 7 month old pup is currently weighing in at 22kg. The vet has recommended putting him on a diet which I have done but my raw food supplier is saying that the vet is not taking into consideration the fact he is a big boy, he's raw fed and his dad is 32kg!
He's been on the lesser food quantity for about a month now and we've upped his exercise but his weight is still exactly the same. Don't know what I'm doing wrong! Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Post by Nifty staffy on Wed Oct 24 2018, 20:36

Hello and welcome.

First question is what breed your pup is ? No staffy should weigh in at 30+ kgs ...
Breed aside, you vet will be judging on your pup’s overall silhouette, overweight is not any good to a growing pup’s articulations. Between vet and feed merchant, I personally would give more attention to medical advice than feed merchant ?
Do be careful about overexercising a pup too, don’t forget that at 7 months old, he’s still very much a baby.

If his weight has not moved over the past month, he should have slimmed down a bit as growing up. It’s better to have a pup slightly lighter than heavier.


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Post by Susan McNaughton on Wed Oct 24 2018, 21:01

Thanks so much for that! All i needed was for someone to explain it rather than just give opinions!
My pups dad is part staffy part mastiff hence the reason he is so heavy lol!
According to the raw recommendations, he should be on 1kg of meat per day but I've brought that down to 700g and as of today, I'm trying him on white meat only. He gets an hour's walk in the morning then a shorter walk later on which the vet has said is great.
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Post by gillybrent on Wed Oct 24 2018, 22:06

If you're raw feeding, at 7 months he should only be getting about 3% of his body weight, so about 650 grams over 2 meals a day.

What sort of exercise is he getting? Being part giant breed, he probably shouldn't be over exercised. The norm is 5 minutes per month of age 'forced' exercise (ie lead walking on hard ground), and then as much as he likes free running/playing on soft ground (ie grass/sand) as long as he is allowed to rest whenever he wants. However, with giant breeds you should absolutely avoid high impact exercise (jumping/twisting/up & down hills etc) until at least 18 months. In fact with some giant breeds it's said that no running at all until 12-18 months.

That being the case, you could probably drop his food to 600 grams without a problem.

Can you feel his ribs without pressing & does he have a distinct waist?

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Post by Susan McNaughton on Wed Oct 24 2018, 22:17

He does have a distinct waist but I do think that his ribs could be a bit more prominant. He doesn't get treats or anything so in my opinion it's purely too much meat.
I do spend a bit of time walking him and we have a huge back garden for him to run about.
Think I'll try cutting his meat to 600g and see how we go. He has taken a stretch so I do think he is a bit leaner. Just a shame the scales aren't saying the same lol.
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Post by Nifty staffy on Thu Oct 25 2018, 05:34

Isn’t he lovely in your avatar ! Love Struck

But your scales ARE telling you there’s a difference as his weight hasn’t increased over the past month.
My Nifty took 1.5kgs between her 6th and 7th month. I’m sure that if you measured your boy, you’d see he had grown upwards for the same weight Smile


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Post by Susan McNaughton on Thu Oct 25 2018, 07:17

I originally had him at the vets to see about having him neutered. They have said it's a good idea but they won't even consider it till he's under 20kg. This is all well and good but it's not easy to get the weight off him when he's still growing.
I'll persevere with cutting his meals and check him again in a month and see if there is any difference. I'm also gonna check his height so the vet has a full picture of what's going on.
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Post by gillybrent on Thu Oct 25 2018, 08:12

Well, I'm glad, in that case, that the vet thinks he's overweight! For a part mastiff (even a small part), I wouldn't even consider neutering until at least 18 months, preferably 2 years old.

If your scales say he hasn't left you st weight, then at 7 months, he almost certainly has because he has grown as well!

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Post by Susan McNaughton on Thu Oct 25 2018, 08:21

Best thing I did was join this forum lol!
The vet recommended it because he's a bit hyperactive at the moment when I just assumed he was going through adolescence.
Will definitely be taking your advice though and leave him alone and just work harder on the training.
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Post by gillybrent on Thu Oct 25 2018, 10:35

Staffords are notoriously lively! I'd expect a 7 month old of any breed to be lively, and there's no guarantee that castration would change that anyway.


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Post by Susan McNaughton on Thu Oct 25 2018, 10:43

Yeah his mum and dad are absolutely crazy so I knew he would be a livewire. He might be hyper but he's amazing with my 3 kids and that's really all that matters to me.
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Post by gillybrent on Thu Oct 25 2018, 16:20

That's the thing - a bit of liveliness can be put up with, he'll grow out of a lot of it soon enough. He's good with people (especially kids) which is the main thing.

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Post by Nifty staffy on Thu Oct 25 2018, 19:06

To be honest, my Nifty is now 18 months old and only starting to be much calmer and “stable”.
I do think Kane sounds too young to neuter, he’s still a baby !
Lively is a good sign that all is well Wink


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Post by Susan McNaughton on Thu Oct 25 2018, 19:10

I totally wasn't for having him castrated but it was the vet who recommended it. Think they do that with every dog right enough! I'm gonna leave him as he is and just continue with his training.
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Post by Nifty staffy on Thu Oct 25 2018, 19:29

My vet also told me that I could have Nifty spayed as from 6 months old Surprised
We waited until she was older and past her first season.

Problem with alot of vets is that they have you close by when pup is young as you’re doing vaccinations, regular pup wormers and the such so you’re regularly at the vets. They try to slide the spaying/neutering into the same “package deal”.


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Post by Susan McNaughton on Thu Oct 25 2018, 19:35

Yeah that's pretty much what happened with us. In fact they even threw in the bit about his breed and the possibility of aggression if he wasn't castrated
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Post by gillybrent on Thu Oct 25 2018, 20:21

Susan McNaughton wrote:Yeah that's pretty much what happened with us. In fact they even threw in the bit about his breed and the possibility of aggression if he wasn't castrated

Surprised Stereotyping at its worse!

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Post by Susan McNaughton on Thu Oct 25 2018, 20:25

It drives me insane!!
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