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Post by smudge95 on Wed Sep 12 2018, 13:38

hi I haven't been on here much but now I need some help.. Buddy is 3 year old male I have had him since 10 weeks - other than normal puppy stuff he has been a great dog until recently- a few months ago I noticed when my hubby takes his dish from him (he plays with it ) he started to growl - but my hubby plays with him and hides his toys so I thought maybe it was due to that as he always lets me take it from him - but the my daughter who came home for a few days from uni said he was sitting on her lap and tried to nip her face a few weeks ago - I wondered if he was just over aroused as I have never seen him do this behavior and he gets so excited to see her - but the last three weeks he has started to growl and be aggressive towards other dogs, has never really liked other dogs but has never growled or been aggressive before - I again have never had it when I walk him until last week but to be fair the other dog is dog aggressive and had was staring him out and the stupid woman wouldn't move and I had no choice but to walk past - but 10 mins ago my daughter said she was doing some training with him and ask for his paw and he wouldn't give it so she went to lift it and he bit her hand not serious but enough to hurt and for her to call me - he has been to the vet week before last as had a touch of kennel cough and had a full examination and there s nothing wrong with him, had antibiotics and the cough has gone - had to go to a new vet as he snapped at the old one when having his jabs - something else he has never done - but the vets was in a pets at home shop and he was so aroused by the time he got to the vets I put it down to that -in the new vets he was a lot better - but now I am worried what to do with him he is due in the kennels on Saturday for 2 weeks what if he bites them - why is he doing it, what can I do to stop this getting really bad - he was fine with me this morning - I cant have a dog that family are scared of.. any advice? literally she has just called to say he has now tried to nip her boyfriend too - am at a loss as to what is wrong with him
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Post by gillybrent on Wed Sep 12 2018, 18:46

I don't want you to think you're being ignored, but I think Liz is the one to help you with this. I'm sure she'll be along soon!

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Post by LizP on Thu Sep 13 2018, 09:56

I'm afraid I'm going to pass on this, for two reasons. Firstly, when it comes to biting and escalating behaviour of this sort, the level of risk means that you can't afford not to get the best advice possible, and that's not going to be from someone online. The second reason is that it is probably going to be a combination of things, including human actions/reactions, that needs someone on the ground to assess in detail. It's simply not possible to make that assessment without seeing it, no matter how accurately someone thinks they are describing something they will only ever be able to describe what they perceive and it's often what they're not seeing that will make the difference.

The only advice I can give you is to seek professional help from a qualified (and insured) behaviour trainer, someone who uses positive methods and ideally someone who is recommended be others who have had behaviour issues. You don't need someone who's great at agility or obedience, you need someone who is experienced in assessing home situations and finding the overall root(s) of the problem.

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Post by smudge95 on Thu Sep 13 2018, 11:06

hi Liz - I understand what you are saying - if I wasn't going away tomorrow that would be exactly what I would do - I went home last night and wasn't sure what to expect , but he was fine I did some training in the garden just to see if he would respond he was fine - he stole his blanket from his bed but gave it back to me with no issues - played ball in the house with hubby who made him sit and took the ball away - my daughter said he was panting a lot and was really hyper when her friend ( who he knows ) came over and was barking at her - Buddy never barks... so like you say its hard to gauge the situation when you are not there , maybe they just got him over aroused and didn't read his signals that enough was enough ( no excuse for the biting I know ) -I have spoken to the kennels who are also a rescue center so they are used to dealing with a range of dog behavior and have said they will monitor and log his behavior for me so we can see if there is any pattern , then when I am back I will try and find a local behaviorist near me and have a chat with them - my daughter goes back to uni in 2 weeks so the house will be calmer so I should get time to work with him on calmness and boundaries -I'm not giving up on him that's for sure .
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Post by gillybrent on Thu Sep 13 2018, 15:47

Can i ask what he is fed? Bad behaviour can often be triggered by certain types of food.

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Post by smudge95 on Thu Sep 13 2018, 16:09

hi Buddy is Raw fed and has been since 5 months old - my daughter did wonder if it was the treats she used to train but he has had them before its Eden kibble - I cant use anything with coloring in as he does go mad I learnt that early on when he was a pup -I am not sure if they gave him anything else - just really odd - my daughter knows him so well she has done most of his early training - so if she says he wasn't right I am inclined to believe her - just very strange ..all round
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Post by gillybrent on Fri Sep 14 2018, 10:21

It does sound strange.

As an aside - is he entire?

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Post by smudge95 on Fri Sep 14 2018, 14:39

hi yes he is entire no humping or anything yet does like to mark on a walk tho - I have been thinking about it - the behavior started more from when he came home from the kennels last - he isn't good in kennels but the one we use he has been better than any of the others , he came back with kennel cough and had antibiotics and it went within a few days - he hates dogs barking runs for home is very skitty - so I wonder if the noise in the kennel has affected him , up till now when he sees a dog he lays down and either lunges to play or just sits and waits for them to pass if we cant turn him in time , but since kennels he makes the first move not real aggressive with teeth or anything but a growl and pulling to get to them - but I have noticed it is dogs that have previously barked at him so I think its a "get in first" reaction , this morning he tried to get at a dog that always has a go at him - but later on the same walk ignored a pug he came face to face with round a corner and a spaniel who bounded out of the house up to him just wagged his tail had a sniff and walked off - with my daughter he seems not relaxed at home - lots of wide eyed looks, and stiff body language, but I wonder if it jealousy toward her boyfriend he has always been her dog now its like he has to share and her boyfriend is scared of dogs too - I think once he is back from kennels and settled and she is back to uni I will have a better insight to what is wrong - if the same tendencies show again I will have to get a behaviorist involved - in fact I think I might any way for peace of mind - just hope he behaves in kennels
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Post by gillybrent on Fri Sep 14 2018, 16:08

I wonder if a) he has had a bad experience at the kennels, or b) he has hit maturity and wants everyone to know!

You could ask your vet for the Supralorin injection (basically chemical castration), which lasts about 6 months; it might help you see if it is hormone related.

I think he is likely jealous of your daughter's boyfriend, and that's made worse by his fear of dogs. Dogs pick up on fear very easily & it can unsettle them.

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Post by joshpills on Fri Sep 14 2018, 21:37

i do know that antibiotics are linked to numerous mental health changes in humans. they now know there is a strong link between the gut and the brain, and are linking antibiotics to things like depression, anxiety etc. so just a thought? if it happened after the antibiotics.

what is the biting like? because obviously if the dog wanted to do damage to someone, it would have the capabilities to really do harm... so if no damage is being done it would suggest hes not really looking to do harm? could be over excitied...

however obviously you know your dog inside out and will know if there is a definite behavioural change, out of everything you've put.. id be inclined to think the antibiotics may be the cause, if you cant think of anything else it could be.

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