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Post by NicoleLouise on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:06 pm

I'm absolutely gutted. My little pup and the rest of his litter had to be separated last week from their mum because of problems. I was pretty gutted about that, but thought because he was with his litter, he'll be fine. He's only 4 weeks and 4 days old, and when I asked if the litter was alright, I was simply told 3 siblings were sold and gone, one is going the end of the week, and there is mine and an unsold girl left.

I'm so annoyed at the fact that she said they won't be going for a while, then suddenly there's 2 left.. I really don't want him to leave so soon, and got a funny feeling that it's being hinted at me that I'll soon be ending up with his sister, simply because she wants none of the puppies, and no-one has taken interest to buy her. Considering she's a friend of mine and I work alongside her, it's pretty frustrating!

No clue what to do.. Should I leave him until his sister is gone, or if I take him, I'll end up with his sister being 'dumped' on me? confused

Sorry seems like a rant - pretty much is lol..

On the positive side, I've finally come up with a few names for my little boy, but which one to choose!?

Blaze
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Post by Rachb26 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:23 pm

Cute pups!

To be honest, your not responsible for the girl pup - your friend is. So you shouldn't feel guilty or enable her to 'dump' a pup on your lap.

The puppies shouldn't even be leaving their mum at this age. It's wayy to young. And while I appreciate that it happens with animals, and humans too for that matter, I think it's a bit irresponsible of your friend to just 'get them gone'. But hey ho, that's not your fault.

I would leave the pups together as long as possible, they need this time together to develop their social skills amongst other things. You will have the rest of your dogs life to treasure him and train him to be a gentleman. But for now he needs to be with his family. Smile

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Post by Jackieb on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:14 am

Gosh, teeny tiny. I do feel thst regardless of the pups having to be separated from mum, it's still the breeders responsibility to raise them with their siblings until they are if a safe age to leave the pack.
I guess yr in a quandary what to do ?

If it were me I'd want him out of there ASAP, (only because ur friend sounds like she dosent have a clue or want to look after them) I'd get him to a vet ASAP and get him thoroughly checked and get advise on how to raise him thru these very early weeks.

It seems there's too many money hungry ppl around. Or on the flip side, find another puppy. Theres so many around !

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Post by Warren on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:51 am

dont listen its the oldest trick in the book all the breeder is doing is trying to move on the pups quickly . at wits end angry im hereing this more and more all the time breeders hear one peson using the reason so now loads are telling the same story. it becoming part of the norm with pups i just wish they would start relising how much harm there doing taking the two weeks socialisation away from the pups.l
yes you can get the pup on the right track with a lot of hard work but saddly people of today dont really want to put much effort into training so they give up and either end up with a dangous dog. hit the dog during training giving a nervous dog .that will eventally turn or most likely just get shot of it

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:29 am

As hard as it would be, I would walk away from this. I'd look for another pup.

I understand that you would be worried about the two pups left, but that isn't your responsibility. The breeder is irresponsible. Any pup removed from its siblings at that age is prone to behavioural problems later in life. You will also be subjecting it to a very stressful situation plus the risk of disease, as you can't vaccinate for another 4 weeks.

Walk away, but if you can't, then just take your pup & get it straight to a vet.

Absolutely disgusting - makes my blood boil.

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:57 pm

Caryll wrote:As hard as it would be, I would walk away from this. I'd look for another pup.

I understand that you would be worried about the two pups left, but that isn't your responsibility. The breeder is irresponsible. Any pup removed from its siblings at that age is prone to behavioural problems later in life. You will also be subjecting it to a very stressful situation plus the risk of disease, as you can't vaccinate for another 4 weeks.

Walk away, but if you can't, then just take your pup & get it straight to a vet.

Absolutely disgusting - makes my blood boil.

I would if I could, but having already paid for him, really have little choice. I already have a vet in mind and ready for when I get him, is it worth just taking him now and straight to a vet?

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:19 pm

NicoleLouise wrote:
Caryll wrote:As hard as it would be, I would walk away from this. I'd look for another pup.

I understand that you would be worried about the two pups left, but that isn't your responsibility. The breeder is irresponsible. Any pup removed from its siblings at that age is prone to behavioural problems later in life. You will also be subjecting it to a very stressful situation plus the risk of disease, as you can't vaccinate for another 4 weeks.

Walk away, but if you can't, then just take your pup & get it straight to a vet.

Absolutely disgusting - makes my blood boil.

I would if I could, but having already paid for him, really have little choice. I already have a vet in mind and ready for when I get him, is it worth just taking him now and straight to a vet?

You should never pay more than a 10% deposit before you actually pick a pup up. Not much help to you now, though, sorry. Sad

I'd leave him there for as long as you can as long as he's being fed & watered properly. I'll hazzard a guess & say that the breeder hasn't begun worming? It might be an idea to phone the vets & ask for their advice. If the vet advises that he should be taken now, then fine. But be aware that you'll have a hard first few weeks. He's going to be too small to train yet, he won't be able to control his bladder or bowels for weeks and he'll have little or no bite inhibition. Add to that the fact that he'll have no siblings to play with & wear him out, and you won't be able to take him for walks for at least 6 weeks.

It's going to be tough if you get him now, but we'll respect your vet's advice & help in any way we can.

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:10 pm

Caryll wrote:
NicoleLouise wrote:
Caryll wrote:As hard as it would be, I would walk away from this. I'd look for another pup.

I understand that you would be worried about the two pups left, but that isn't your responsibility. The breeder is irresponsible. Any pup removed from its siblings at that age is prone to behavioural problems later in life. You will also be subjecting it to a very stressful situation plus the risk of disease, as you can't vaccinate for another 4 weeks.

Walk away, but if you can't, then just take your pup & get it straight to a vet.

Absolutely disgusting - makes my blood boil.

I would if I could, but having already paid for him, really have little choice. I already have a vet in mind and ready for when I get him, is it worth just taking him now and straight to a vet?

You should never pay more than a 10% deposit before you actually pick a pup up. Not much help to you now, though, sorry. Sad

I'd leave him there for as long as you can as long as he's being fed & watered properly. I'll hazzard a guess & say that the breeder hasn't begun worming? It might be an idea to phone the vets & ask for their advice. If the vet advises that he should be taken now, then fine. But be aware that you'll have a hard first few weeks. He's going to be too small to train yet, he won't be able to control his bladder or bowels for weeks and he'll have little or no bite inhibition. Add to that the fact that he'll have no siblings to play with & wear him out, and you won't be able to take him for walks for at least 6 weeks.

It's going to be tough if you get him now, but we'll respect your vet's advice & help in any way we can.

Hmm, now I know.. with her being a friend who I helped out, I thought I could trust her! Obviously not..

He's being fed and watered fine. She has them on solids, and started them on solids since the day his mum was separated, although she did water it down, but they're having it without watering down now. If that makes sense? Actually I think she has, not being there 24/7, I don't get to see everything that goes on, so I can't say for sure. Will give them a ring now, and see what is said. I'm devastated at the situation he's ended in, but just want the best for him here on out. Definitely will be hard if he is to be taken now, but it'll be worth the hassle in the end, however still no excuse for what has been done.

He's only left with 1 unsold sister out of a litter of 7. But as for socialising, I have a friend with a really young pup that may be able to help out. Hoping the vets can advise on something..

Thank you, all advice/help is greatly appreciated!

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:15 pm

You must remember he is very young and unprotected so I would be very wary about socialising unless you know your friends dog is vaccinated . Tommy only got to mix with Tilly from when he first came to us and a very brief introduction to my lads dogs as I know they are up to date fully.

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Post by Hayley on Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:21 pm

Friend or not i would be reporting her to the RSPCA and the KC she is not a good person if she can do this to pups.

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Post by RubyRoo on Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:26 pm

when we got ruby, we paid a deposit to hold her until 8 weeks, at just under 6 weeks the breeder said the pups were ready to go and 3 of the 5 were gone and did we want ruby early. we declined, said we wanted her to stay with her brother and parent dogs until at least 8 weeks. they agreed saying they were just offering as others wanted theirs earlier, and thankfully the last pup didnt sell until 8weeks 3 days old, i think the extra weeks with her brother and mum and dad (even though crated apart from mum and dad) helped her a lot. i would leave the pup with her, as long as hes getting food/water/contact with people and hopefully at least 1 other dog/pup.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:57 pm

This is absolutely disgusting, I agree with Hayley, I'd report her to the RSPCA. Each of those puppies is likely to have behavioural problems of some sort as a result of being separated from mum and brothers and sisters too early.

You are going to need to put in A LOT of hard work and serious training with this puppy, I hope you;re prepared for that. Many people, as Wazza said, can't be bothered with the amount of training required and end up getting rid. I fear that is what will happen to most of your pup's litter (bt not you of course because you have us to turn to for an help and support you need Big Grin)

Good luck to you, and to your boy's brothers and sisters. They're going to need it.

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Post by Hayley on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:06 pm

shontelle wrote:

Good luck to you, and to your boy's brothers and sisters. They're going to need it.

That.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:34 pm

NicoleLouise wrote: But as for socialising, I have a friend with a really young pup that may be able to help out. Hoping the vets can advise on something..

But you can't socialise them because he hasn't had his jabs, and won't have them for another few weeks yet. Sad

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:03 pm

shontelle wrote:This is absolutely disgusting, I agree with Hayley, I'd report her to the RSPCA. Each of those puppies is likely to have behavioural problems of some sort as a result of being separated from mum and brothers and sisters too early.

You are going to need to put in A LOT of hard work and serious training with this puppy, I hope you;re prepared for that. Many people, as Wazza said, can't be bothered with the amount of training required and end up getting rid. I fear that is what will happen to most of your pup's litter (bt not you of course because you have us to turn to for an help and support you need Big Grin)

Good luck to you, and to your boy's brothers and sisters. They're going to need it.

I agree, and I'm gutted if any of them are to turn out with any sort of problems. They were such lovely pups, brill temperaments, sweet natured. It's a shame this situation has come about. And I'm prepared to put in every bit of training, tlc and effort needed to make sure he gets the best of life right until the end!

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:04 pm

Caryll wrote:
NicoleLouise wrote: But as for socialising, I have a friend with a really young pup that may be able to help out. Hoping the vets can advise on something..

But you can't socialise them because he hasn't had his jabs, and won't have them for another few weeks yet. Sad

He's staying with his sister for as long as she's there, so I'm hoping that adds up to a few weeks. Hoping A LOT!

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:06 pm

Seriously....good luck & I'm sure you'll do the best you can for him. Big Grin

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:18 pm

Caryll wrote:Seriously....good luck & I'm sure you'll do the best you can for him. Big Grin

Thanks! I'm going to need it lol. But he has a home for life, and I'll do everything I can for him Smile

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Post by Jackieb on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:32 pm

I'm glad he's gonna be with u, a nice loving home for him.

Do u mind me asking how much u paid for him ?

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Post by micheled on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:48 pm

good luck Smile it's obvious how committed you are to trying to make the best of things for him

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Post by Kathy on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:04 pm

All the very best of luck with it all. Please dont be afraid to ask for any help you may need.


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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:15 pm

Jackieb wrote:I'm glad he's gonna be with u, a nice loving home for him.

Do u mind me asking how much u paid for him ?

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Definitely, everything and anything he needs, home for life!

Not a problem, I paid £200... sounds like an awful lot for the situation, but I can't help but love him. As long as he has a roof over his head, the training, tlc and effort into bringing the best out of him, money isn't an issue for me x

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:16 pm

micheled wrote:good luck Smile it's obvious how committed you are to trying to make the best of things for him

Thank you! Definitely committed, he's my little man lol! But, wouldn't have it any other way Smile

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Post by NicoleLouise on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:16 pm

kathytake2 wrote:All the very best of luck with it all. Please dont be afraid to ask for any help you may need.

Thank you, all the help and advice I really do appreciate. And I'll probably be needing plenty mroe advice, but it's nice to know I have somewhere to turn x

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Post by Jackieb on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:17 pm

He's a lucky pup for sure, keep us updated x

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