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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 13:40

Romeos been on James Wellbeloved since he was a puppy, although when he was younger and fussier it was mixed with all sorts of rubbish to get him to eat it; webbox chub rolls, that gross dog gravy that oozes everywhere, dry chappie etc.
He has it plain now and has had it plain since he was 15 months. He eats just over a cup a day. I try to vary the flavours, he is currently eating the fish one. Sometimes instead of his dry food I give him chicken or lamb or beef or a raw meaty bone. Useally the chicken is cooked and the meat is raw.
He has at least 40 minutes exercise a day, all of it off lead running. On weekends he has 2-3 hours offlead running. As you can see from pictures he is a very stocky little dude. A bag of 2kg JWB lasts him 5-6 weeks. He sometimes has a dentastick treat.
Am I feeding him enough?

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Post by linzy Tue Mar 13 2012, 13:55

Violet eats 400g of dry food (about 2 pint glasses, but I can guess it by eye now) and one tin of wet food mixed in plus whatever else she can scrounge. She now weighs over 20kg, though she looks lean, but she's still growing and constantly zooming about. I wonder if I feed her too much, but she doesn't seem over weight and is still hungry.

Romeo doesn't look underweight, but if I only fed Violet one cup of food a day, RJ would come home to find that Violet had eaten me Sad
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Post by janey Tue Mar 13 2012, 13:59


I am very suprised 2kg lasts him 5/6 weeks, Moo was on JWB and a 15kg bag lasted 4/5 weeks, as I said in another post Moo gets through 12kg of Fish4Dogs in 5/6 weeks. Granted she has a lot more exersize than Romeo but are you sure you are reading the quantitys right?

2kg=2000g, for a med dog the reccomended feeding amount is 190-320g, so by going on the lowest weight that would only last 10 days!

http://www.wellbeloved.com/products/dog_food/feeding_guidelines.aspx

All dogs are different I guess!!
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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:29

I don't read the quantities I just feed him as much as he'll eat. If I feed him more then that he'll leave it in his bowl.
He weighs 24kg.

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:30

He looks pretty good to me, so I'd say he's having enough!

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Post by Staffyblue Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:43

That doesn't sound much at all. But supose every dog is different and Romeo does look very healthy!
Ted gets through a 2kg bag of JWB in a week. He has 330g a day as per guidelines on packet and he'd eat double that if he could! Laughing
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:53

he deff gettin anough but as said he not gettin much food there nobody else in the family thats feeding him food when your not looking is there ???
becouse if anything he seems a bit heavy for his size and it does seem strange he that weight on eating so little .
i know you excercise but maybe you need to do a bit more to get his appitite up as 2kg lasting 5/6 weeks is really low

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Post by Staffyblue Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:56

Thats what i was thinking as the amount he's fed and his weight don't seem to add up.
Could anyone else be feeding him whilst your out?
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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 14:59

becouse if anything he seems a bit heavy for his size and it does seem strange he that weight on eating so little
Oh he certainly is very heavy but do you mean overweight? He's certainly not overweight you can feel and see his ribs. As i've said before the camera does him no justice at all.
I just thought he had a very low metabolism, I know mastiffs don't eat a lot for their size. I'm put more in his bowl but he won't eat it.
I barely have time to exercise him for 40 mins as it is Sad Thats why I make sure he has extra long at weekends. I get up at 5am to squeeze that 40 mins in. When he was younger he had 2-4 hours a day and still ate the same amount.
He does put on weight very easily.

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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:00

My mum does give him the occasional biscuit but she doesn't give him meals. She always accuses me of 'starving' him.

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Post by Andy Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:05

He's certainly not overweight you can feel and see his ribs.



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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:07

Well for a start you can see them in the first photo, what do you think that line of muscle on his side is? The problem is his skin is so wrinkly it just obscures everything. You may mock him but I get a lot of strangers complimenting his figure.

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:10

Are you absolutely sure that nobody else is feeding him? It just sounds like he isn't eating much!

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:11

sorry but iv got to say he deff carrying to much weight around the chest even looking at the first picture

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Post by Andy Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:13

Me ... mock ... it wasnt me ... nah he's a very fit lookin chap, not at all like my bandy legged dinosaur !!

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Post by Staffyblue Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:13

Your defo not 'starving' him, hes a gorgeous looking boy in your pics!
And if he wont eat more than your giving him then he cant be hungry.. so he MUST be getting food elsewhere to get to his size. Is your Mum feeding him more than she lets on.. or could he be raiding the biscuit barrel when your our hehe Wink


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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:17

Andy wrote:He's certainly not overweight you can feel and see his ribs.



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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:27

nah he's a very fit lookin chap, not at all like my bandy legged dinosaur
I'm guessing your taking the p***. When have I ever called your dog that? The only picture I've seen of him is your avatar.
sorry but iv got to say he deff carrying to much weight around the chest even looking at the first picture

At the risk of sounding like one of those fat people saying their big boned thats not fat you can see its all his loose skin. His shoulder and chest are rock hard. I told you all he was really wrinkly and has very short front legs and a barrell chest. I've never made any bones about it. :/
I came on here asking a question as i'm concerned for my dogs well being and you're all just taking the mick out of me and him. I know hes a funny shaped little guy, hes got some british bulldog in his lines. Rip the p*** out of me as much as you want but don't be mean about him.

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Post by Staffyblue Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:36

I never said he was fat, i think hes gorgeous! Cool He is a big built dog though, so defo think he's getting fed from someone else when your out, as surley he cant get to his size from 2kg in 6 weeks! I'd quiz others in your household and find out what hes eating during the day just so your in control of what hes eating. Check the guidelines on the packet just to compare what you feeding as to what is recommended. Although, the recommended amount isn't always correct for your dog, everyone is different.
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:46

Andy wrote:He's certainly not overweight you can feel and see his ribs.
What with .... an X-ray ? Tongues

Andy wrote:Me ... mock ... it wasnt me ... nah he's a very fit lookin chap, not at all like my bandy legged dinosaur !!

Come on, now, Andy, that isn't nice.

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 15:47

As everyone else has said really.....please dont be offended (obviously i am only looking at photos not the actuall dog) but he does look as if he is carrying a bit of extra weight, which obviously doesnt add up with the little food u are feeding him which is all really odd........ confused

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:08

sorry if you think im being mean im not as blaze stated we can only go off the pictures that you have put on .
all im saying he looks heavy and your not feeding much so if he gettin feed somewere else you dont want to be feeding good food only for someone else to be feeding him up on scraps.

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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:30

I don't think any of you are being mean apart from Andy whose used this entire thread to have a dig at my dog because I advised someone not to get an unreg unhealth tested blue dog as it would most likely be out of standard.
I don't see where he is overweight though, he was born a very wide, stocky dog as you can see from his paws. I have seen overweight dogs and they have big bellies hanging down and fat covering their sides.
I'm not trying to make excuses, honestly, but he has no extra fat. He has a huge amount of wrinkly skin on his neck and shoulders as i've mentioned before, perhaps to demonstrate I will have to take a picture.
He is also-obviously-not full staff but part british bulldog if that makes any difference.
I did just ask my mother if she has been feeding him extra and she told me to 'f*** off and get a life.'
We're not really on speaking terms. Straight Face
Thank you everyone for your helpful comments Smile Apart from Andy who decided he would be a very mature gentleman and make spiteful remarks which made me cry.

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:33

He does look big on the front looking at the phone posted above.

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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:47

He does look big on the front looking at the phone posted above
Of course he does, thats his chest and shoulder muscles... He has a 27 inch chest. Straight Face

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:50

No idea why I said phone .. I meant photo's lol

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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:51

I got the gist Tongues

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Post by Ben Tue Mar 13 2012, 16:55

I personally think he is fine looking, but that does sound like so little food to get into him. Perhaps if he is a real couch potatoe when not out running on his walks, that might explain things. My two boys would eat until they poped and don't put on weight easily. The new girl, well, lets just say I might need something stronger than x-ray to see her ribs! How much meat and bone does he get though? Is it daily or just on rare occasion?
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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 17:12

Perhaps if he is a real couch potatoe when not out running on his walks,
Yes he is! Left to his own devices he will happily sleep all day and not move an inch. I have tried to interest him in games but he doesn't care-he'd rather sleep. Sometimes he has a chew of his rawhide but not that often. He literally doesn't move when in the house but when hes out on walks he runs and jumps and rolls and wrestles lol.
He has meat/bone 2-3 times a week. I have bought him a nice bit of beef skirt for dinner today.

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 17:15

beef skirt nom nom nom might pop in for tea lol

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Post by Ben Tue Mar 13 2012, 17:20

I think his relative inactivity explains a lot of the eating stuff. I used to give my 70 lb bulldog about 1.5-2 cups of food daily and he still could put weight on. He just wasn't very active. A non-active dog will more easily put on weight and eat less as well. Plus giving meat and bones 2-3 x week will add to his overall food intake and explain how you go further on the kibble.
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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 17:26

Hes very laid back and bulldog* in his personality most of the time.
beef skirt nom nom nom might pop in for tea lol
Is it nice? Believe it or not I've never tried it. Yes he puts on weight at the drop of the hat, if people think he looks fat at the moment they should have seen him after his birthday party! Laughing
They say pets are like their owners Crying or Very sad
*lazy? lol

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Post by Andy Tue Mar 13 2012, 18:01

Look, my point is that you do get very defensive if you think one person is havin a pop at your dog let alone when it happens a few times as you now know, there is a fair bit of blue bashin for whatever reason here lately which as i've said to you before is beginning to p!ss me off ... and tho you may not have said anything directly about my Max, or anyone else's dog on here, he is a perfect example of a "good" blue to blue brindle mating, even if according to you he fits the "bandy legged dinosaur" standard !! (see below)

"I can't believe so many people think £1000 is a fair price to pay for a Staffordshire bull terrier just because its blue! Especially when there are so many in rescue of all colours.
You could get a French mastiff for that sort of money.
I don't think the blue colour comes out very well on staffies anyway, its certainly not traditional.
You'd be better off getting a blue Great Dane or a Weimaraner, now they're beautiful-look like silver ghosts.
Blue staffies are great, but only when they come about by accident, when you purposely breed for them you get bandy legged dinosaurs, its such a weird trend and people are lapping it up like cats with fish flavoured ice cream."

So before you go slaggin people's choice of colour, price they are prepared to pay, and generalise about every dog of that colour other than what you think is a good one, just think about how those your talking about will react!!
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ok ok no more let not have another lock topic.

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Post by Steve Tue Mar 13 2012, 18:22

can you feel ihis ribs? if you can hes not overweight

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Post by Guest Tue Mar 13 2012, 18:37

He actually looks very similar to my Charlie as you can probably see from the photos I posted today. Charlie has a huge chest and lots of skin and wrinkles on his neck and shoulders but I wouldn't consider him overweight.

Charlie gets through 2-3 kg a week though and has at least an hour and a half exercise during the day and about 2-3 hours on a Saturday and Sunday. How on earth your boy is making a 2kg bag last 5 weeks is beyond me. If that really is all he's eating, it is definitely not enough.

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Post by Ben Tue Mar 13 2012, 18:44

Shon, whoops thought it was 20kg and not 2!!!! They don't even sell bags here that small! Didnt read careful I guess. Surprised The only way I see it working would be if he was eating about 1kg of meat the three days he was eating the meat meals.
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bbimson wrote:Shon, whoops thought it was 20kg and not 2!!!! They don't even sell bags here that small! Didnt read careful I guess. Surprised The only way I see it working would be if he was eating about 1kg of meat the three days he was eating the meat meals.

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Post by brophski Tue Mar 13 2012, 19:11

My pups still quite young , but from the pic he looks a solid chap! I think some dogs just hold weight more than others, just like humans lol.
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Post by shakespearesdog Tue Mar 13 2012, 19:52

So before you go slaggin people's choice of colour, price they are prepared to pay, and generalise about every dog of that colour other than what you think is a good one, just think about how those your talking about will react!!
I'm perfectly entitled to point out that dogs bred purely for colour are not going to look the best conformation wise or have the best health. Maybe where you live your choice of colour is something special but where I live there is literally one on every street corner and no one in their right mind would pay such a huge amount of money for something so common.
And the only one having a pop at my dog is you. And I've never said anything about yours, but funny how you never post any pictures of him? I know full well what my dogs faults are, he's certainly not a show dog.

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Ok, you have both had your say. I'm going to lock this topic as it now has nothing to do with the original post.
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