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Post by Steve Tue Nov 09 2010, 11:41

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 12:37

Bandit was around 17.5" but I always say 17". He was quite tall for the time. Dempsey's a lot taller, but then he's not a staff!!

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Post by janey Tue Nov 09 2010, 16:14

I dont know she wont stand still long enough for me to see!
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 17:21

katies bang on 16 inches, and thats about the size of it Laughing she wont grow any taller, just fill out more from now on.

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 20:59

Just tried to measure Blue but he has a fear of my tape measure. I can understand where he is coming from don't like the thing myself as it normaly involves me doing some work
But at a quick glance looked like he was 17"

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 22:06

How tall do bitches get ??

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Post by janey Tue Nov 09 2010, 22:26

How longs a piece of string, they all differ
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 22:28

Janey wrote:How longs a piece of string, they all differ
exactly janey Laughing

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Post by Steve Tue Nov 09 2010, 22:31

MILLY-MOO wrote:How tall do bitches get ??
depends on the dog mate Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 22:40

MILLY-MOO wrote:How tall do bitches get ??
the kennel club standard for staffys is 14 to 16 inches for both male and female

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Post by Guest Tue Nov 09 2010, 22:42

MILLY-MOO wrote:How tall do bitches get ??

The standard says 14" to 16" (dog or bitch) so you'd expect a bitch to be nearer the 14". But that's just a piece of paper! In reality they can be from around 12" to 18", depends what the parents were! Big Grin

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 00:07

MILLY-MOO wrote:How tall do bitches get ??
the height for both dogs and bitches is 14 to 16inches, this height and the dogs weight being in relation to each other, failure to conform to these size designations is a fault within the kennel club standards.

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Post by gem Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:34

Holly is 15 inches and duke 15and half bang on
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:48

gem wrote:Holly is 15 inches and duke 15and half bang on
well their are within the height and conform to the kennel club standard

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Post by janey Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:50

Where you take the measurment from anyhow?
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:53

measure the height from the ground to the middle of his back, you can also measure from the shoulders to the back of the hocks

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:54

measure the height from the ground to the middle of his back, you can also measure from the shoulders to the back of the hocks

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Post by janey Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:55

Thanks Big Grin
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 19:56

you can measure them from the ground to the top of their shoulder

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 21:15

I measured from the floor to the top of the shoulders. The middle of his back is allot lower but I think thats from where his saddle goes..........I don't make him wear it all the time..........just on walks for when my legs get tired

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Post by gem Wed Nov 10 2010, 21:19

BlueStaffBlue wrote:I measured from the floor to the top of the shoulders. The middle of his back is allot lower but I think thats from where his saddle goes..........I don't make him wear it all the time..........just on walks for when my legs get tired
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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 22:14

shane wrote:measure the height from the ground to the middle of his back, you can also measure from the shoulders to the back of the hocks

The official height is always from the floor to the withers (top of the shoulders, just behind the base of the neck).

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 22:16

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shane wrote:measure the height from the ground to the middle of his back, you can also measure from the shoulders to the back of the hocks

The official height is always from the floor to the withers (top of the shoulders, just behind the base of the neck).

yes i know i already said this in the above thread

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 22:24

You said the middle of the back - that's not the withers!

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 22:32

Caryll wrote:You said the middle of the back - that's not the withers!

read again the one below it

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 10 2010, 22:33

you have selective sight caryll rolling on the floor

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 11 2010, 02:26

Taz is just over 20inchs
Cassie is 18inch give or take.

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Post by el_toro Thu Nov 11 2010, 02:59

Toro is 44 cm so I think it´s like ~17 in inches Big Grin I think most of todays staffys are too big when we compere to standards? Am I right or what? Big Grin
Other option is that in Britain u have standard staffys and we have big ones over here Wink
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Post by Guest Thu Nov 11 2010, 14:43

el_toro wrote:Toro is 44 cm so I think it´s like ~17 in inches Big Grin I think most of todays staffys are too big when we compere to standards? Am I right or what? Big Grin
Other option is that in Britain u have standard staffys and we have big ones over here Wink

Yea your right staffys are bred big these days which is sad! Everyone thinks my Ty is small "for a staff" but actually he's on the large side at 17" people think staffs should be these huge muscely dogs.....

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el_toro wrote:Toro is 44 cm so I think it´s like ~17 in inches Big Grin I think most of todays staffys are too big when we compere to standards? Am I right or what? Big Grin
Other option is that in Britain u have standard staffys and we have big ones over here Wink

Yea your right staffys are bred big these days which is sad! Everyone thinks my Ty is small "for a staff" but actually he's on the large side at 17" people think staffs should be these huge muscely dogs.....

Well, they should certainly be muscley, but they were once described to me as 'pocket battleships'. Loads of power in a 'small' frame. There have always been the over-sized staffords, but there seem to be more & more now.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 11 2010, 16:03

memphis is 14.5 in
his dad is said to be on the big side at 16.5in
and his mam also said to be on the large side is 16in
so really there really top end of what breed standard should be

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 11 2010, 16:15

Well Taz is the most gorgeous mutt i have ever known so i know he is a misfit when it comes to size lol

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Post by superstew Fri Nov 12 2010, 13:52

http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/breeds/Staffordshire_Bull_Terrier.htm I found this it gives the height and weight
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 14:04

superstew wrote:http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/breeds/Staffordshire_Bull_Terrier.htm I found this it gives the height and weight

They're not exactly correct, although almost! Big Grin It's easier & more acurate to check the Kennel Club Official Breed Standard:

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/87

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 14:52

there's not too many staffys these days, that fit the height and weight criteria of the kennel club, they are a dying breed

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 15:21

Maybe, but that's the standard breeders should be aiming for. If breeders don't like it they should be contacting the breed clubs & asking them to put forward a new set of height/weight ratios to the KC.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 15:38

i cant seem to fathom how a dog can be registered with the kennel club if their dog don't meet the kennel club standard, maybe they shouldn't issue the owner with a cert until the dog is fully grown. so they can check all the necessary criteria, this would bring back the staff to the original standard, but i do know that a dog, that is not the correct weight and height and the other criterias will be disqualified from showing.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 16:42

At what age will Milly be fully grown?

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 17:31

shane wrote:i but i do know that a dog, that is not the correct weight and height and the other criterias will be disqualified from showing.

That would be impossible, Shane, without bringing a measure & scales into the showring - and they're not going to do that!

Any dog from registered parents can be registered with the Kennel Club (as long as certain criteria have been met by the breeders prior to the mating & after the birth). The breed standards will always be open to 'interpretation' so you couldn't say "that dog can't be registered" or "that dog isn't up to scratch". Who would make the decision?

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 18:41

sorry now caryll your wrong, they do weight dogs in the show ring when it comes to showing one example being the miniature dachshund, and whats the point in having a breed standard , that means i could show a staff who is kc reg and is 20 inches tall, and weighing 25kgs,dont think so.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 19:24

Janey wrote:I dont know she wont stand still long enough for me to see!

SNAP its hard enough to get kuma on scale's

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Post by markeB Fri Nov 12 2010, 23:53

well my ellie is 17 inches and my Leo is 16.5 my Ellie is 15.3 Kg and my Leo is 17 Kg,fit n healthy thats the main and i luvem to bits call me
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12 2010, 23:55

markeB wrote:well my ellie is 17 inches and my Leo is 16.5 fit n healthy thats the main and i luvem to bits call me

yeah thats the main thing and they are two fine looking dogs

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Post by superstew Sat Nov 13 2010, 00:48

To be honest ive not seen any staffy weighed at any show ive been to and when the two winners are announced and are stood together the bitch is never taller than the male sometimes about the same but never taller.All the dogs at show bitches together males together are about the same height but some broader than others to say they are getting too big is not a true assessment in my opinion............ Big Grin
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superstew wrote:To be honest ive not seen any staffy weighed at any show ive been to and when the two winners are announced and are stood together the bitch is never taller than the male sometimes about the same but never taller.All the dogs at show bitches together males together are about the same height but some broader than others to say they are getting too big is not a true assessment in my opinion

it must be different in England then. all staffys that are entering a show in Ireland are weighted and measured before hand, and if they don't meet the standard their not allowed compete. whats the point in having a breed standard if your dog you are entering in the comp doesn't conform to the standard. think about it Laughing

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Post by superstew Sat Nov 13 2010, 10:49

Shane im not saying it doesnt happen here just ive not seen it this is a video from the blackpool champ show 2008 you cant tell me the breeds getting too big or standards have slipped
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superstew wrote:Shane im not saying it doesnt happen here just ive not seen it this is a video from the blackpool champ show 2008 you cant tell me the breeds getting too big or standards have slipped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBmUYaa2PI


them two dogs in the video are proper kennel club standard staffys and they don't look if they are over 16 inches.
thats why they are in the show, what im saying is you cant show a staffy that is 19 or 20 inches in a kc show. and the vast majority of staffs being bred today are not with the kennel club standard.

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Both Rocco & Dixie are 15.5". Only tme will tell how big Deano will be, but I'm guessing a lot bigger.

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Post by superstew Sat Nov 13 2010, 12:44

Shane I agree with that last comment I think not kc registered dogs are out of proportion,dogs are heavier than the standard for the simple fact is the diet had changed and moved forward since the standards were set
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shane wrote:sorry now caryll your wrong, they do weight dogs in the show ring when it comes to showing one example being the miniature dachshund, and whats the point in having a breed standard , that means i could show a staff who is kc reg and is 20 inches tall, and weighing 25kgs,dont think so.


That's not what I meant. In England staffords are not weighed or measured. And are not likely to be. If the judge feels a dog looks as though it is over the standard he won't put it up, but a half inch or a couple of pounds here or there will get past no problem.

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