Chinese fur farms

barnstormer · by barnstormer on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:16

This is a very sickening practice be warned the video in the link is very stomach churning it shows a puppy fur farm

* Sorry I'm putting this link under review - I personally don't feel it's suitable. Oxide

Here's a link to a petition site that does not have any grusome images or video's on it.

http://www.petitiononline.com/s1a2c5ff/petition.html

Oxide

**tiaflame** · by **tiaflame** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:18

i cant watch it... that is the most disgusting thing i have ever seen in my life. only watched the first few secs and i was in tears.

**Markey** · by **Markey** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:48

I think if people want to see this they can find it via google.
Having already seen it myself, it s not the sort of thing to watch lightly. I found it deeply disturbing.
However strong you think your stomach is... doubt you would want to see it, it is truely horrific.
I do not believe it should be on general display in a post.
Just my opinion.

**tiaflame** · by **tiaflame** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:49

i agree markey.

**Shaun** · by **Shaun** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 11:14

barnstormer wrote:This is a very sickening practice be warned the video in the link is very stomach churning it shows a puppy fur farm

* Sorry I'm putting this link under review - I personally don't feel it's suitable. Oxide

Totally agree Oxide - not necessary to have this on the forum.

**Marian** · by **Marian** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 11:27

I agree Oxide

barnstormer · by barnstormer on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:26

I put it up as i was sent an online petition to stop this cruelty so it is worth having it up as there is a link at the bottom to sign up to stop this and i watched it and it made me ill i have signed it and i think other forum members should sign it to stamp this practise out i cant believe they use dogs and id love to stamp on there heads and skin them alive for people who are interested in signing the petition should look at the peta website

Atb

**Markey** · by **Markey** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:32

I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment to stop the trade and the barbaric treatment of the animals.
But this is not the place to post such a video,
Without being prepared for what you will see, I think many will find it too distressing.

**tracyp** · by **tracyp** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:36

OMG!!!!!!!!! just did a search & . . . 40 secs & i had to shut it down! Couldn't watch anymore. I see your point barnstormer in regards to signing the petition but really not something we need to show in a post.

That's so awful. My goodness. I feel ill, those poor animals!
I think i HATE people!!!

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:38

Can you isolate the petition and just put a link to the petition or does it have to be the whole page? I don't know I haven't seen it I only just got here lol

**Oxide** · by **Oxide** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:40

I posted a link to one of the many petition sites. This one has no disturbing grusome images on it .

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:47

Cool so everyone can still sign without seeing their lunch again. That should please everyone.

**Markey** · by **Markey** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:50

Excellent

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 13:54

Ok I've signed, Barnstormer I have to ask is yours the comment about the chinese flag?

barnstormer · by barnstormer on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:22

no mines way back i thought i could stomach most things and i have never seen such a barbaric act in all my life and just thinking about it makes me want to retch the worse thing was the skinned dog still alive i have never seen such a wicked act in all my life and id luv to take his knackers off and shove them in his mouth while i skin him alive evil bastards

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:24

I haven't seen it and based on that description I don't want to. What are they actually using dog fur for? Surely no one would wear a dog fur coat? (Apart from Cruella de Ville)

**Markey** · by **Markey** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:29

I am sure the home market in china and far east use a lot of the fur for clothing etc,
But I understand ( htough hope I am wrong) that unfortunately many items that are trimmed with a bit of fur , and cheap slippers and such , many use the fur from these farms.
Nobody as far as I know actually orders dog fur gloves - but if you buy a pair at the market you very well might be wearing them.
So in answer to your question " who buys it" ? - we do !

**Oxide** · by **Oxide** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:29

The thing is barnstormer - they've been doing it for hundreds of years.
Watts - 90% gets used it as mock/fake fur. They skin cats, dogs, rabbits, weasels(mink) etc all in the same manner.

Barnstormer - off topic - but have you ever been to an abatoir? Have you seen how they kill the cows, sheep and pork that you buy prepacked from the supermarket?? You might be in for another shock.

barnstormer · by barnstormer on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:35

That is no problem i can deal with that but thats done humanely and i know they dont skin them alive and we have rules and regulations unlike those countrys i can skin and gut animals no problem as i like to hunt and i love a bit of rabbit or vennison:D but there is the one image on that video that sickens me and thats that poor puppy skinned looking into the camera still alive

**Markey** · by **Markey** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:35

Oxide wrote:The thing is barnstormer - they've been doing it for hundreds of years.
Watts - 90% gets used it as mock/fake fur. They skin cats, dogs, rabbits, weasels(mink) etc all in the same manner.

Barnstormer - off topic - but have you ever been to an abatoir? Have you seen how they kill the cows, sheep and pork that you buy prepacked from the supermarket?? You might be in for another shock.

Don't want t get drawn off topic , but our slaughterhouses can not be compared to this.

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:38

I remember being at an abbatoir as a child (again my dads thou shall learn how everything is done) and they were killing cows but it was a bolt through the head - its been a long time ago and it may be done differently now but this was a gun that shot a bolt out straight between the eyes and that was it. I was also taught how to skin and gut a rabbit and kill a chicken I had a wonderful childhood straight face

**tracyp** · by **tracyp** on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 14:54

Guys, I work in labour hire & we supply staff to three abattoir's & am so glad to say they are nothing like these fur mongers! It has changed watts. ( a shot between the eyes is still the kindest kill IMO. It's instant.) But the smell of dead flesh hasn't. Phew! Gross! Abattior's have a standard they work to! (Here anyway. Cant say about over there. Dont know?) These fur farmers wouldnt know how to kill an animal humanly if you slapped them in the face! Again guys, abattoirs are run by very strict standard these days! You CANNOT compare the two. They are nothing alike!

tink-rose · by tink-rose on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 21:47

i havent watched the video, i couldnt, id be in too much of a state, im a vegetarian and it sickens me that people treat animals in such a way, let alone dogs. i f***ing HATE the evil b******s that do this. I hope they all rot in hell for all the pain they put poor defensless animals through!!!

woo · by woo on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 22:20

id sign the petition as long as it shows nothing even thinking about it makes me cry ...how cruel i havnt got the words to describe what i would want to do to the people (there not people are they )that can do this ... crying

Diesel07 · by Diesel07 on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 09:23

tracyp wrote:Guys, I work in labour hire & we supply staff to three abattoir's & am so glad to say they are nothing like these fur mongers! It has changed watts. ( a shot between the eyes is still the kindest kill IMO. It's instant.) But the smell of dead flesh hasn't. Phew! Gross! Abattior's have a standard they work to! (Here anyway. Cant say about over there. Dont know?) These fur farmers wouldnt know how to kill an animal humanly if you slapped them in the face! Again guys, abattoirs are run by very strict standard these days! You CANNOT compare the two. They are nothing alike!

I agree!
abattoirs should not be compared to this terrible video!
That video of the Chinese killing those poor animals...I was soo not prepared for it, I literally felt sick to my stomach! OMG! Fair enough animals are killed for their fur but it MUST be done quickly and in a humane way! I think I am going to have night mares tonight! crying

I think 'to torture' runs through the vains of many people and no offence but the chinese are renouned for their torture! Surely you would know if an animal is dead or not and to continue to skin an animal wise to it still being alive is torture, it would certainly be easier to skin a dead animal that a moving live one and yet they continue to skin live animals, they obviously get a kick out of the torture involved....this s.h.i.t is just sick sick sick!!!!!!

**Emmalou** · by **Emmalou** on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 09:38

I cant even watch it sad

**Shaun** · by **Shaun** on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 12:48

I would never want to see that for as long as I live - I'll sign the petition, but really don't have any interest in seeing the vid.

**Oxide** · by **Oxide** on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 13:49

Sorry P3nt - maby rephrase your post. I've moved it to review.

**P3nT4gR4m** · by **P3nT4gR4m** on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 14:04

Yeah no probs Oxide, I thought it might be a bit near the knuckle. Human and animal rights on that landmass is a bit of a hobby horse of mine.

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 14:12

Surely not a reasonable member whose post has been removed I've come over all peculiar.....

Forum rules state that there will be no racist posts so she really didn't have a choice.

**Marian** · by **Marian** on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 14:13

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**tracyp** · by **tracyp** on Sun 09 Aug 2009, 03:59

Dont bother to watch it guys. It really is awful! (& I can detach myself from most things !)

Go hug & kiss your puppies & other pets, whatever breed they are! Let them know how much you love & will protect them again, & again, & again, & then go sign the petition! Human's are so cruel! & sorry to say but some humans don't deserve to be on this earth! We should all do our best to protect the animals on this planet & ensure their wellbeing, & not allow this sort of thing to take place anywhere! I know it's been going on for hundreds of yrs but so has slavery & that doesn't make it right either!!!! Bring back an eye for an eye! Awhhhhh, angry

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Sorry guys, can feel an edit from admin coming on????

Sign the petition guys & GO hug & kiss all your pets for me! They are a precious life form that you have been afforded the miracle of knowing, sharing your life with & spending time with them. Live, love & hug them all lots!

Some animals are unfortunate in their lot in life & do not know the love that everyone on this site shares with their animal friends, be they doggies or otherwise!

Bully4U · by Bully4U on Fri 02 Oct 2009, 08:26

i chose not to look for it on google, i can imagine what goes on anything related to any animal cruelty disturbs me greatly, the more i hear of this kind of thing, the more i dislike mankind.

**allie** · by **allie** on Fri 02 Oct 2009, 14:25

I am not going to watch it

**Nichole** · by **Nichole** on Sun 04 Oct 2009, 15:20

I'm not going to google it but I think I know what video it is. I have a stomach of steel (medical field - I have to) and often I have the distanced heart that goes with it but that video got to me. I remember my husband asking me what I was watching and I blocked the computer so he couldn't see it and told him not to look (he's a softy).

The main thing I got out of the video is the fact that humans are awful creatures. There is no other living creature on this earth who can be as heartless as us. Being an evolved creature has its downsides and this is one of them.

**Net** · by **Net** on Sun 04 Oct 2009, 16:20

Why did you ban this member from the forum.

**jane** · by **jane** on Sun 04 Oct 2009, 16:55

Why were they banned?

**watts1974** · by **watts1974** on Sun 04 Oct 2009, 17:40

After several ongoing problems with this member, none of which related to this particular post, we reviewed the account. We have had many complaints about the posts that he has made, and as his contribution to the forum was 75 posts most of which have had to be edited, deleted or warned about, the Admin team made a decision to ban him.

I would like to reiterate that this post was not involved, if anyone has a problem with our decision then feel free to contact us.

**My Bully's Keeper** · by **My Bully's Keeper** on Mon 12 Oct 2009, 19:17

Same as slaughterhouses IMO.

**jane** · by **jane** on Tue 13 Oct 2009, 13:15

I have to agree, there's no actual difference between the suffering of a dog or a pig or a cow, and I've seen some awful footage of the treatment of animals in slaughterhouses, sometimes because they are killing so many animals at a time to reach targets that they are just not following the procedures they should so the animals aren't killed humanely and suffer and sometimes and probably the worst is the gratuitous cruelty, ill treating animals for their own enjoyment.