Description:
The Banter Bulldogge should be a strongly built, athletic, muscular mid-sized Bulldogge/Mastiff. They are a strong working dog, a bully build, with their legs still underneath them. They have a slight under bite and are mostly solid in color with minimal white and will compare to the Old dogs of the area of Brabant, Belgium known as the Brabanter Bullenbeisser. Most of all they will continue to be a working breed and should be proven at every opportunity. Banter Bulldogge's are athletic and very capable of many of today's canine sports such as weight pull, agility and personal protection. They are also at home doing terrier work or just as a home pet/watchdog.

History/Origin:
Created by Todd Tripp of Southeast Ohio in the late 1990's. His vision was to re-create the Brabanter Bullenbeisser of the 1700's in central Belgium province known as Brabant. His foundation consisted of dogs that were Boxer and of a working bull breed, ie. APBT, Staff, AmStaff, American Bulldog. Most of all was the consistency of using a high percentage of Boxer in the foundation brood stock, being very selective in choosing dogs to be in his foundation, and by using selective breeding to reach the final goal.
The Brabanter Bullenbeisser was the small Bullenbeisser that was found as a family and working dog in the 1700's and early 1800's. The Brabanter Bullenbeisser was the smaller more bull doggy type of Mastiff used to create the modern day Boxer in conjunction with other Larger Bavarian mastiffs and the obvious infusion of the "Old Time English Bulldogges". It is also widely known that the Brabanter carried very little if any White until the 1830's when the first English type Bulldogge was first imported into Germany.
How the name came to be... The word banter means "to address in a witty and teasing manner; good-natured and usually witty and animated joking" -- a definition that matches the temperament of this breed. Also coming from the Old Belgium dogs of the 1700's from the area in and around Brabant know as the Brabanter Bullenbeisser. For these reasons, this breed was named the Banter Bulldogge.

Height: Males 16-25 inches; Females 14-23 inches

Weight: Males 50 - 85 lbs; Females 50 - 75 lbs Fault: Dogs excessively above or below the standard weight.

Colors:
Fawn, black, red, brindle of all types, with or without black mask. All colors can possess various

Coat:
The coat should be short and smooth.

Temperament:
Easy to train and very obedient. The Banter Bulldogge should be excellent with children and always loyal to its family. It is a good watchdog and will bark to alarm danger or to scare off trespassers. Will be steady to protect if necessary. They have a lower energy level indoors than out. However Banter Bulldogge's do need to get a good workout or energy can become built up. They are a ruff and tuff dog playing and are fine with other dogs as long as they have been properly socialized. A fun dog with its family always eager for play time and is smart enough to know when play time is over.

Care and Exercise:


Health Issues:
A very healthy, happy dog. Currently no known health issues.

Category: Rare, Working

Registries: IOEBA

Living Environment: Outdoor

I don't know steve but it looks like a boxer/staff cross to me. I will get some pic's of what i think a pitbull looks like IMO Steve have a look at these www.ironcrosskennels.com This is what i think of when i hear pitbull

ohh my lordy, that is one hot site, and those dogs my oh my,had to turn it off after hearing the lyrics of the music with my 7year old next to me, lol,

i know what you mean ceasergirl, how about the 28inch head? Its just MO, but i think these type are pits, i think the long legged irish types are just crosses so why put them to sleep? (so much for their 'experts' opinion)I'd like to see em try and remove one of these from their homes!

wow at the website, thats what i think of as pitt bull aswell

have you seen that pitbull picture at the button of the index page on that site OMG that cant be a pit surly

that man must be a small bloke or that dog is a giant pitbull

here is the picture

is the man a dwarf??? big dog

do you think some of these dog are pitbul X Cane Corso X great dane with a little bit of mastiff in them?

I dont mind people going in what dirrection they think a their line should go, but in my oppinion a pit bull should be a working dog and be very athletic, the dogs on that site look like over muscled bull dogs, they may be bred from large strains of pit bulls but look too bully for my liking, like i said thats their choice

pitty people would deny they are real pitties. & i would agree with them.

who would want a dog like that?

plenty of people it would seem if he had to add another ''farm'' to his inventory.

& why do they always have them on those bloody big chain?....bloody *******.

To me this sight is just that guy trying to say look at me I'm so macho, some of the pics you can see in the pups where their ears have recently been done, which I hate and the then he obviously has to glam up his dogs by having models. Anyone with good examples of dogs can allow them to speak for themselves, they don't need gimmicks. These dogs have been bred purely for size, would love to see what they do with the smaller examples... i dread to think.

Thats true Roxystaffie, but i wasnt looking at the guy who breeds them or the lopped ears, which i dont agree with lopping of any kind, (the model is his girfriend lol) He says his dogs come from a long line from old pits.
I was looking at the conformation of the dog, werent pitties origionally bred from a mastiff type going way back in time. His are obviously more bully/ mastiff than terrier, but i find as with staffies some are more bull than terrier ie - like bull dogs - squat but with straight short legs and , big heads/muscle mass. The ones more terrier ie more athletic/leaner more of a terrier head bit longer in the leg/nose - of course for show a balanced mix of both - i have seen all examples at shows though.
So as with pitties some are more athletic/leaner fitter, longer in the leg/nose more terrier. Just an observation.

A good read if anyone wants to know more about pit bulls is *The working pit bull* by Diane Jessup, she goes right back to the origional dogs that where created in England and Ireland and about how they first became known as American pit bull and then from there Amerian pitt bull terrier, very informative and educational. she still just likes to call them pit bull dogs as apposed to the later name they recived.

Hi zeebo, i actually like pitbulls , staffords came from the same heratige and broke off to different strains, i have actually argued the case for pits on other sites against pitty haters even though i dont own one. I would own one if there was no ban My neighbour has one, a lovely girl Even though she howls like a banshee when they go out I'm also a believer that the KC should acknowledge the english/irish pitbull in their own right just as they did staffys will read it if i find it on the net cheers for the info

I love them also and i know we have alot to thank them in the past for, if it wasnt for the arse holes who have owned them in the past and the idiots who just slap bans on them id own them along side my staffies also. id trust them and staffies around my kids alot more than alot of breeds.


ps sorry about the language.

Know exactly where youre coming from Zeebo

I don't know much about pit bulls but i recently read the standards for them and some of the dogs on those sites seem to be showing some of the faults that are supposed to be undesirable. e.g loose jowles (spelling sorry) and bow legs.

I didn't think they were supposed to be that bit and bully really and thought they were supposed to be far more athletic!